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  • The congress can create a commission to understand the true death toll and where all the issues were. The GAO had a report that spells out a lot the problems that occurred and it wasn't all about Trump. In specific the way FEMA is funded limits the amount of workers you are going to have at anytime. Trump could make a point about this if he actually read the report.

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    • Last edited by crashcourse; September 13, 2018, 01:02 PM.

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      • yep. And of course Gentrys like DSL wanna quote Republican politicians who don't wanna play the numbers game in the middle of their campaign cycle as a PUBLIC SLAM ON TRUMP lol

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        • So are you saying deaths caused by lack of electricity or lack of access to a hospital should NOT be attributed to the hurricane or what?

          And Trump said this morning, HIS OWN WORDS, CRASH, that as few as 6 people were killed.

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          • Also these colleges did these studies after countless eyewitnesses came forward disputing the official narrative that hardly anyone died and all was well. People who spent far more time on Puerto Rico than Trump's two hours tossing paper towels, like Governor Rick Scott, came away saying the devastation was far worse than they were led to believe.

            Crash, you're going to have to come to terms with the fact that Trump is continuously out of control, a habitual liar, and an egomaniac. Hell, your buddies Hannibal and Geezer have accepted this. It's all part of the tradeoff; they get tax cuts and conservative judges, in exchange Trump gets to act like a jackass all he wants.

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            • sounds like a good trade to me lol

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              • They haven't had to live with a generation of backstabbers and phonies who undermine the agenda.

                Demonstrably false. Look -- some people go to Washington to buy in, and some eventually sell out, and then you have a very small handful of pure people. Everybody who believes in anything has been undermined, unless you believe in abusing power to pool capital in the smallest and most exclusive pools.

                Regardless, it all comes down to the fact that an entire generation of Republican leadership did not align with their electorate ideologically and they did not do what they had a mandate to do. The why isn't important.

                I could not agree less. The "why" is the most important thing. It's money. You are being sold out for money. If you don't know what the problem is, you can't fix it.

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                • Originally posted by Dr. Strangelove View Post
                  Also these colleges did these studies after countless eyewitnesses came forward disputing the official narrative that hardly anyone died and all was well. People who spent far more time on Puerto Rico than Trump's two hours tossing paper towels, like Governor Rick Scott, came away saying the devastation was far worse than they were led to believe.

                  Crash, you're going to have to come to terms with the fact that Trump is continuously out of control, a habitual liar, and an egomaniac. Hell, your buddies Hannibal and Geezer have accepted this. It's all part of the tradeoff; they get tax cuts and conservative judges, in exchange Trump gets to act like a jackass all he wants.
                  trump is like George costanza

                  its not a lie if you believe it

                  he is a bullshitter and and egomanaic

                  but he's not nuts or deranged or mentally ill or whatever label is put on him

                  he survived multiple debates and held his own quite nicely. he has had many press interviews that do show he has the ability to answer questions with intelligent answers.

                  that isn't to say he doesn't come up with some off the wall wtf are you thinking answers




                  but when you see shit like this coming at him from all sides all the time:




                  "The head of FEMA on Wednesday accused a Democratic senator of "playing politics" after the lawmaker claimed the Trump administration diverted $10 million from the agency to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement to support immigration enforcement.

                  Brock Long, administrator of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, defended the transfer in an interview on MSNBC's "Andrea Mitchell Reports," saying it had nothing to do with response efforts and that the agency spends billions of dollars to manage disasters. FEMA's annual budget is estimated to be $15 billion.

                  "Right now, that money has nothing to do with what you see behind us," he said in an interview from the FEMA response center in Washington. "It does not pay for this response, it is not coming out of the disaster relief fund, it has no impact on our efforts to be prepared for Hurricane Florence, it's just, unfortunately, we have a congressman that is playing politics on the back of Florence. There's no story there."

                  The story broke Tuesday night on MSBNC's "The Rachel Maddow Show," when Sen. Jeff Merkley, D-Oregon, allegedthat money earmarked for disaster relief and emergency response efforts had been taken out of FEMA's accounts and shifted to ICE.

                  The transfer occurred earlier this summer and such transfers between government agencies are not unusual.

                  However, the movement of the funds is raising questions about FEMA's preparedness as Hurricane Florence charges toward the Carolinas and Virginia. Roughly 1.7 million people in the Carolinas and Virginia have been told to evacuate.






                  people who voted for him and still are glad he's in rather then Hillary
                  and you tend to circle the wagons and say wtf when you see stories like the above just reign down every day
                  Meanewhile the press continues to ignore the fact you had our intelligence agencies being put to work to find dirt and create dirt on an opposition candidate after he was duly elected. They then continued their effort to sabotage his presidency. page strzok, McCabe, comey, ohr all have a paper trail that implicate them in one of the biggest scandals this countries ever seen an mainstream media continues to ignore its existence
                  friggin pathetic. part of the reason you'll see a new AG after the midterms
                  Last edited by crashcourse; September 13, 2018, 02:01 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by hack View Post
                    [You are being sold out for money.
                    LOL. Um. No

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                    • hack -- I wish to God that Republicans were the sellouts that you claim. Seriously, you have no idea. If that were the case then my industry wouldn't be the most fucked-in-the-ass-by-the-government industry on the history of the Earth. Industry PACs and God knows how many wealthy individuals have gotten royally ripped off by the Republicans that they have donated to. I stopped donating to our industry PAC a long time ago because of it. Trump is literally the first friendly President that we have had.
                      Last edited by Hannibal; September 13, 2018, 02:44 PM.

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                      • The Harris Poll, a nationwide customer survey of their favorite brands, has released its 2018 results.

                        The poll surveyed more than 77,000 customers in the U.S. >>>>>>>>







                        Taco Bell voted best Mexican restaurant in the country


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                        • If you choose to look at it from the narrow viewpoint of your own professional experience, that is your problem. All sorts of people get screwed over here despite paying what they percieve to be their dues, so to speak. Bottom line: look at the whole; follow the money. It's that simple, and getting easier to do. It's staring you right in the face now that this administration's people no longer even bother to conceal it.

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                          • but when you see shit like this coming at him from all sides all the time:

                            Look, we just came off eight years in which the opposition's formal goal was to oppose the president no matter what he was trying to do. In no sane world can you suddenly demand and expect bipartisan cooperation after being so dedicated to the opposite for so long.

                            A lot of good points in your post otherwise. I appreciate your increasingly nuanced take on Trump.

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                            • Originally posted by WingsFan View Post
                              The Harris Poll, a nationwide customer survey of their favorite brands, has released its 2018 results.

                              The poll surveyed more than 77,000 customers in the U.S. >>>>>>>>







                              Taco Bell voted best Mexican restaurant in the country

                              lol, Taco Bell is the Hillary Clinton of Mexican cuisine.

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                              • Originally posted by WingsFan View Post
                                The Harris Poll, a nationwide customer survey of their favorite brands, has released its 2018 results.

                                The poll surveyed more than 77,000 customers in the U.S. >>>>>>>>







                                Taco Bell voted best Mexican restaurant in the country

                                Imma take a gamble here and say Taco Bell is less popular in Gentry Prog havens like NYC, San Fran, and Seattle and more popular in rural, poor America that has less access to decent Mexican food. Just a thought.

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