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  • Why do you hate our diver heroes, Buchanan?
    Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
    Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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    • All are rescued. Miraculous.
      "The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is sometimes hard to verify their authenticity." -Abraham Lincoln

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      • Jeff, I think some were actually sedated and dragged out like a sack of potatoes. It makes sense. Water rescues with non swimmers are incredibly dangerous. Being under water with no visibility in a cave for that long and people lose their shit. Hell, I have seen it in a simple lake rescue. The guy almost killed himself and his rescuer.
        "The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is sometimes hard to verify their authenticity." -Abraham Lincoln

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        • ........ Just wondering. If I wanted a kid to stay focused, Ritalin (methylphenidate) or Focalin (dexmethylphenidate) would be a good choice. I've seen these prescribed together with a low dose of an anxyolitic in teens (I'd never do that - not in my area of knowledge). Supposedly, they have different biologic targets so one doesn't cancel out the effects of the other. i.e., you get relaxation with a nice meth high or the jittery response from typical ADD meds can be lessened with an anxyolytic. I'd think a pretty narrow group of patients would experience these benefits though.
          There is such a thing as redemption. Jim Harbaugh is redeemed at the expense of a fading Ryan Day and OSU. M wins back to back games v. OSU first time since 1999-2000​ - John Cooper was fired in 2000!!!

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          • Originally posted by AlabamAlum View Post
            Jeff, I think some were actually sedated and dragged out like a sack of potatoes. It makes sense. Water rescues with non swimmers are incredibly dangerous. Being under water with no visibility in a cave for that long and people lose their shit. Hell, I have seen it in a simple lake rescue. The guy almost killed himself and his rescuer.
            Yep ...... I can see that. However, I'd worry about a completely sedated patient losing the seal on a whole-face mask and drowning real quick. I'd really like to know the details of how they got these kids out. Fascinating stuff.
            There is such a thing as redemption. Jim Harbaugh is redeemed at the expense of a fading Ryan Day and OSU. M wins back to back games v. OSU first time since 1999-2000​ - John Cooper was fired in 2000!!!

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            • I read an article that said some were completely sedated. Two divers per boy one lead and pulled, one trailed and attended to equipment.

              I would be much more worried about the seal with a fully conscious child underwater in a dark cave.
              "The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is sometimes hard to verify their authenticity." -Abraham Lincoln

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              • Originally posted by AlabamAlum View Post
                .........I would be much more worried about the seal with a fully conscious child underwater in a dark cave.
                I'd be worried about ME under those circumstances. I can't imagine the difficulties and I'd sure like to know in detail how they were addressed.

                There is such a thing as redemption. Jim Harbaugh is redeemed at the expense of a fading Ryan Day and OSU. M wins back to back games v. OSU first time since 1999-2000​ - John Cooper was fired in 2000!!!

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                • Yeah, there are no ideal solutions. You do a risk-benefit decision tree and hope for the best. Luckily, the best is what they got. If not for the dead diver this worked out as well as anyone could ask for.
                  "The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is sometimes hard to verify their authenticity." -Abraham Lincoln

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                  • Exactly. All search and rescue involves risk management. You can never eliminate the risk, but you can do things to mitigate it. Eventually you have to make a go/no go decision.

                    It looks to me as if they handled this as well as it could possibly be handled.
                    I feel like I am watching the destruction of our democracy while my neighbors and friends cheer it on

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                    • Good heavens...Kavanaugh is a Yale man Lovey! Thurston Howell III will be rolling in his island grave...
                      Shut the fuck up Donny!

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                      • Agreed, CGVT. With depleting oxygen in the caves and more rain on the way, they had to do something. The sedatives made sense.
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                        • I think AA needs some of those sedatives...
                          Shut the fuck up Donny!

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                          • I don't rake meds. Except Levitra but that's recreational.
                            "The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is sometimes hard to verify their authenticity." -Abraham Lincoln

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                              • Lol
                                Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
                                Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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