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  • Flip is better especially on the D side.
    Really? I don't see it, never have... Huddler was better.

    Valtteri Filppula was a terrible -6

    Only Brian Lashoff -10 was worse - don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out Flip.




    I know stats are misleading sometimes, but I don't think so here - let him go


    Pavel Datsyuk +21 I know its an unfair comparison, but that is a two way player!
    Last edited by WingsFan; July 6, 2013, 03:02 AM.

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    • oops I forgot 2 players both was the same -6 guess who?

      Damien Brunner -6

      Dan Cleary -6

      Other Player of note

      Henrik Zetterberg + 2

      Mule + 13 (whoa)

      Danny DeKeyser + 4 in such a short time



      Jakub Kindl + 15 Going to be a main stay at the blue line

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      • BRUNNER's name keeps floating out here
        19.1119, NO LONGER WAITING

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        • What the hell ever happened to Gordie Howe, Eddie Shore and Stan Mikita? Never heard of these damn youngsters

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          • Couldn't find a bleep anywhere about Brunner, me thinks teams are like the Wings and don't want to shell out big bucks to an unproven player.

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            • Shit, remember that Green By Packer team with a future all star coaching cast? Mike Holmgren, Sherman Lewis, Steve Mariucci, Andy Reid, Jon Gruden, Fritz Shurmur, Dick Jauron, Ray Rhodes.


              Joe McDonnell, director of amateur scouting, and Mark Leach, amateur scout, will leave the Red Wings to join Nill in Dallas.
              Think about it,

              Jacques Demers - Went on to win Cup with Montreal (think is retired)

              Bryan Murray - GM Ottawa

              Scotty Bowman - Senior Advisor Chigago

              Jim Nill - GM Dallas

              Paul MacLean - HC Ottawa Senators

              Steve Yzerman - GM Tamps Bay

              Dave Lewis (Bust) - Asstant Coach Carolina Hurricanes

              Todd McLellan - HC San Jose Sharks

              Brendan Shanahan (Bust) - National Hockey League's Vice President of Hockey and Business Development and Director of Player Safety. In other words Gary Bettman 'bitch'. (Total embarrassment he ever had anything to do with the Wings).


              3 GMs 2 HCs and Bowman - off the top of my head that's 6 current teams with x Red Wings leading them.
              Last edited by WingsFan; July 7, 2013, 07:50 PM.

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              • Brad McCrimmon too (as a coach, not in the NHL. And of course he died with his team)

                Barry Smith
                Barry Smith, (born 21 August 1952 in Buffalo, New York) is an American ice hockey coach. He began his coaching career in 1975 with Elmira College In 1986, Smith began a long career as an assistant and associate coach in the NHL, working with the Buffalo Sabres, Pittsburgh Penguins, Detroit Red Wings, Phoenix Coyotes, Brunflo IK, and Vancouver Canucks, winning five Stanley Cups along the way.[1] Smith also coached five games for the Red Wings in 1998 after head coach Scotty Bowman was unable to start the season behind the bench due to knee surgery. In 2008, he became head coach of SKA St. Petersburg of the Kontinental Hockey League. After being a pro scout for the Chicago Blackhawks,[2] he was the head coach of HC Lugano in Switzerland NLA. He is presently the Blackhawks' Director of Player Development.[3]
                Last edited by Tony G; July 7, 2013, 08:08 PM.
                Benny Blades~"If you break down this team man for man, we have talent to compare with any team."

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                • Cleary has drawn interest from other teams, including Anaheim, but wants to be a Red Wing he will be back. Likely on a three-year contract somewhere between $2.5 to $3 million per season. Im OK with that, 2- years would be better , meh - good to have a gritty loyal forward, especially when injury's come along.


                  The Red Wings are not happy with Damien Brunner. Thought they gave him a fair 3 year deal, but he's leaving the Wings. The Red Wings have essentially cut ties, look for him possibly tomorrow to be with another team.


                  Rumors Tootoo will be gone (no room for him, still I would keep) And Sammy and Burt are on the team still. Samuelsson - what a terrible signing, Holland would like to dump him but would have no takers. Has a year left on contract.

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                  • Brad McCrimmon too (as a coach, not in the NHL. And of course he died with his team)
                    Yea, I almost put him in the list he certainly deserved to be in it.

                    Barry Smith - He is presently the Blackhawks' Director of Player Development.

                    That I didn't know :-) and I was thinking about him, thought he was retired.

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                    • Neither did I till I just looked.
                      Benny Blades~"If you break down this team man for man, we have talent to compare with any team."

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                      • If Shanahan and Chelios make the HoF does either enter as a Red Wing?

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                        • Shanahan maybe. Chelios will probably go as a Hawk.
                          I long for a Lions team that is consistently competitive.

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                          • Chelios was born in Chicago, raised in Chicago, played much of his career in Chicago...

                            He'll go into the Hall as a Blackhawk.

                            Shanahan I think would most assuredly go into the Hall as a Red Wing.

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                            • I've been informed that the NHL Hall of Fame doesn't enshrine players for any one particular team, so it's a moot point.

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                              • Actually the Hockey Hall Of Fame does have every player listed by team on their website. Thing is, it lists ALL of a player's teams. So the Detroit Vipers are listed as having a member (Gordie Howe) as is Detroit Compuware (Lafontaine).

                                Redwings listed to date


                                Sidney Gerald (Sid) Abel
                                Martin A. (Marty) Barry
                                Andrew James (Andy) Bathgate
                                Leo Joseph Boivin
                                John Paul (Johnny) Bucyk
                                Dino Ciccarelli
                                Paul Douglas Coffey
                                Charles William (Charlie) Conacher
                                Roy Gordon Conacher
                                Alexander Peter (Alex) Delvecchio
                                Marcel Elphege Dionne
                                Bernard Allan Federko
                                Viacheslav Fetisov
                                William Alexander (Bill) Gadsby
                                Edward (Eddie, Fast Eddie) Giacomin
                                Ebenezer Ralston (Ebbie) Goodfellow
                                Glenn Henry Hall
                                Douglas Norman Harvey
                                William George Hay
                                Gordon (Gordie) Howe
                                Mark Howe
                                Sydney Harris (Syd) Howe
                                Brett Andrew Hull
                                Leonard Patrick (Red) Kelly
                                Igor Larionov
                                Herbert (Herbie) Lewis
                                Robert Blake Theodore (Ted) Lindsay
                                Harry (Apple Cheeks) Lumley
                                Francis William (Frank) Mahovlich
                                Larry Thomas Murphy
                                Edward Reginald (Reg) Noble
                                Adam Oates
                                Douglas Bradford (Brad) Park
                                Marcel Pronovost
                                Hubert George (Bill) Quackenbush
                                Luc Robitaille
                                Anders Borje Salming
                                Terrance Gordon (Terry) Sawchuk
                                Earl Walter Seibert
                                Darryl Glen Sittler
                                John Sherratt (Black Jack) Stewart
                                Cecil R. (Tiny) Thompson
                                Norman Victor Alexander (Norm) Ullman
                                Harry Percival Watson
                                Ralph (Cooney) Weiland
                                Stephen Gregory Yzerman
                                Benny Blades~"If you break down this team man for man, we have talent to compare with any team."

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