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  • #16
    Holy shit man. You guys are already on the Sewell sucks bandwagon. Him skipping a season didn’t help him but this kid is still going to be a beast. He’s one of the best OT I’ve seen in a longtime and I’m stoked we got him.

    What I’m not stoked about is our RG and last years RT. He’s a f’ing shit show. V should be cut immediately but he won’t be as his contract is terrible
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    • #17
      I'm still on the team of they could be better and have a worse record. The opening of the season is potentially very brutal.

      Selling on Sewell long term would be silly at this point but that doesn't change that he's struggling now and some of those early games are tough matchups for him.

      I imagine the defense will be better, they seemed to be in the preseason other than a few players. Not running man so much without the players to do it will help some just by itself. Hard to imagine the offense being better but it they can run effectively as they have been its possible.

      I think they'll go somewhere around 5ish wins.

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      • #18
        I'm not saying Sewell sucks or was a bad pick. Drafting Sewell was a no brainer if the Lions didn't trade back at the time. There are signs that point to Sewell having growing pains this season. The schedule and the opposing pass rushers are going to be a challenge for him. I won't hide the fact that Sewell struggled in several of his pass rush reps in the preseason for whatever it's worth. Maybe it's not worth anything.
        Big V is indeed a weakness on the OLine until proven otherwise. Quinn desperately swung for the fences by overpaying Big V because of his one good run when the Eagles won the Super Bowl. It hasn't paid off yet.

        Would love for this team to prove me wrong and have a 6-11 (best case scenario) season. It's a very likable team with the changes this offseason.
        Combination of a tough schedule (NFC West, AFC North) + completely new staff + marginal to poor talent at key positions (QB, WR) ... There's going to be struggles this season.

        It's perfectly fine if this year is a rebuild anyways.

        Brad Holmes was able to find a starting OT (Sewell), rotational DT (Onwuzurike), starting NT (McNeill), CB #4 (Melifonwu), supposedly starting Slot WR (St. Brown), eventual starting LB (Barnes), RB #3 (Jefferson) in his first draft class. UDFA possible starting nickel CB (AJ Parker).
        We still have to see if any of these guys are good during the season. You like to hear that most of these players will be involved right away.
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        • #19
          I think in this sense we were kinda spoiled by Barry Sanders and Calvin Johnson and Ndomukong Suh, all very high profile high slot draft picks that came right out of the gate swinging and having an impact.

          But the truth is, even the highest slotted picks tend to look like warmed over shit their first couple years in the league. Even "can't miss" prospects rarely look all that great; for example, if you had tried to project Peyton Manning's career just by virtue of his rookie season, you'd figure he'd be a marginal starter at best.

          So yeah, people wringing their hands about Sewell after three preseason games aren't even putting the cart before the horse. They've wheeled the cart out to the next damn town while the horse is still back in the stable.

          Relax.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by chemiclord View Post
            But the truth is, even the highest slotted picks tend to look like warmed over shit their first couple years in the league. Even "can't miss" prospects rarely look all that great; for example, if you had tried to project Peyton Manning's career just by virtue of his rookie season, you'd figure he'd be a marginal starter at best.
            Tend? No. Some do look bad and then recover to be great, but I wouldn't call it typical. Most of the time, if a top pick looks like warmed over shit, he ends up being shit. Its also very position dependent. RBs, DLs, and to a lesser extent WRs "tend" to show right away what they are about. It seems to me most of LTs that end up being great are solid from word go.

            Does that mean Sewell will bust? No. But stop trying to deny his current struggles isn't a bad sign. Its a very bad sign.

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            • #21
              It's a NOTHING sign. It's three PREseason games.

              You're gonna have plenty of time to sweat out all your horrors once the games actually matter. Until then, RELAX.

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              • #22
                Ok Baghdad Bob.

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                • #23
                  I say it's a sign of rookie growing pains, but it's foolish to say "bust" or "the next Patrick Mahomes!" (reference to the Justin Fields preseason hype train).
                  Everything isn't black and white. There is gray area, you know.
                  Sewell can look inconsistent as a rookie and turn out to be a stud down the road. BOTH are possible. IDK who is calling Sewell a bust... Bengals fans maybe?
                  Let's not act like Sewell is going to look like Jonathan Ogden on day 1. He's a rookie. It is what it is.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by jaadam4 View Post
                    Holy shit man. You guys are already on the Sewell sucks bandwagon. Him skipping a season didn’t help him but this kid is still going to be a beast. He’s one of the best OT I’ve seen in a longtime and I’m stoked we got him.

                    What I’m not stoked about is our RG and last years RT. He’s a f’ing shit show. V should be cut immediately but he won’t be as his contract is terrible
                    Totally agree. The GREAT thing about Saturday's pre-c was seeing Logan (Stenberg) at RG. All the reps that I had seen previously (for the last 2 years) they had him playing behind Jonah Jackson. Which makes sense IF you had a good RG. But we don't. So it was good to see him in there playing well. And I did not see him miss an assignment until late. Which he probably hasn't played that much since college and then got a little dinged up. I think we should be moving on from V shortly (after a few games) and then our front 5 will be together.

                    I do think they will be somewhat successful in the run and short passes. I just think the defensive back 8 are a sieve, and it will be hard for any offense to keep up with that. Hey, just swing pass to the flat. It doesn't matter who, we don't have anyone (but Barnes) who will react or stop it until the runner is 10-20 yards downfield.

                    Originally posted by Cody_Russell View Post
                    I say it's a sign of rookie growing pains, but it's foolish to say "bust" or "the next Patrick Mahomes!" (reference to the Justin Fields preseason hype train).
                    Everything isn't black and white. There is gray area, you know.
                    Sewell can look inconsistent as a rookie and turn out to be a stud down the road. BOTH are possible. IDK who is calling Sewell a bust... Bengals fans maybe?
                    Let's not act like Sewell is going to look like Jonathan Ogden on day 1. He's a rookie. It is what it is.
                    Fields doesn't remind me of Mahommes. He's more like Cam Newton. I can see this leading to injury somewhere in the future. Especially behind that terrible OL.

                    Bengal fans need to be concerned with who they selected. Sewell has 3 plays of bad tape, but at least he has good plays on tape. Unlike who they selected. Chase is 0-3 period.
                    Trickalicious - I don't think it is fair that the division rivals get to play the Lions twice. The Lions NEVER get to play the Lions, let alone twice.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Cody_Russell View Post
                      I say it's a sign of rookie growing pains, but it's foolish to say "bust" or "the next Patrick Mahomes!" (reference to the Justin Fields preseason hype train).
                      Everything isn't black and white. There is gray area, you know.
                      Sewell can look inconsistent as a rookie and turn out to be a stud down the road. BOTH are possible. IDK who is calling Sewell a bust... Bengals fans maybe?
                      Let's not act like Sewell is going to look like Jonathan Ogden on day 1. He's a rookie. It is what it is.
                      I sincerely doubt Jonathan Ogden looked like Jonathan Ogden in his first preseason either.

                      Believe me, I am as much of a Lions pessimist as anyone on this board, but Jesus Christ does it seem like for some posters here it's like some sort of race to sound the alarms.

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                      • #26
                        I'm guessing the lions will go "Oh, for fuck sake" this year.
                        Take that to Vegas. Put the house on it.
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                        • #27
                          I'm not down on Sewell. It's going to take some time to learn the position and the league. That said, if he's still having horrible game after horrible game then look to move him down in the depth chart.

                          Okuda on the other hand is putting in the time and effort to be a bust. If he isn't a stud this year, replace him next year.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by chemiclord View Post

                            I sincerely doubt Jonathan Ogden looked like Jonathan Ogden in his first preseason either.

                            Believe me, I am as much of a Lions pessimist as anyone on this board, but Jesus Christ does it seem like for some posters here it's like some sort of race to sound the alarms.
                            Ogden was like virtually every other top O-lineman drafted. A year older and 20+ more games under his belt - and wasn't coming off a year of not even touching a player.

                            Sewell is literally UNCHARTED TERRITORY. The $64 question is how patient can a team be to wait to see if he lives up to his draft stock.

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                            • #29
                              I like what I see in Dan Campbell. Can easily forgive the Lions preseason games as it was with second and third stringers.
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                              • #30
                                Get them votes in
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                                You missed by one, Rod.

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