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  • iam416
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    Legally driving 20 minutes to Kenosha. Legally carrying a gun. Legally walking around.

    If you act legally you lose your right to self-defense.

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  • CGVT
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    Wandering out of the Quarter a 3 am and grabbing your gun and driving to a problem area to play Rambo are not even remotely the same thing.

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  • Kapture1
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    Originally posted by iam416 View Post

    Oh, I know. It ain’t my position.
    Yeah, I know. But that's the argument being made by the Left.

    Defund the police, we'll police our communities.
    WHOOPS.


    We may want to consider the left's entire prescription for this country and how antithetical it is to our founding principles, and look ahead to where it leads. Your very own right to self defense is on trial, this kid goes away for life for what was clearly self defense, what of America, as an ideal, remains? Rule of law?
    Personal liberty?
    Free speech?
    Free thought?
    Your right to not have a medical procedure and make a living?


    Sorry, hard not to be cynical. Listening to this bullshit knowing how many people want this, we're to the point of arranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

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  • iam416
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    Exactly

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  • AlabamAlum
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    People lose their minds with the “bad place/bad time” arguments. “He shouldn’t have been there, so fuck him.”

    As most know, I grew up in and around New Orleans. I’ve heard otherwise good people say “they got what they deserved” when someone gets raped or shot or beaten half to death on the edge of the French Quarter at 3am.

    Trying to convict Kyle of homicide is a close relative of that species of victim-blaming. You shouldn’t give up the right of self-defense due to some bad place/bad time designation that those folks have levied, but with each day the Rittenhouse trial drags on, it looks like that’s where we’re heading.

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  • iam416
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    This is pretty quick, interesting and hilariously sad read: https://freebeacon.com/campus/a-yale...im-to-account/

    How the seemingly innocuous can land you in bad graces of Woke Administrators.

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  • Kapture1
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    Originally posted by CGVT View Post

    Oh bullshit..

    My argument is that you don't go to war unless you are a soldier.

    That is the essence of it.
    Medics go to war too

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  • iam416
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    Originally posted by Kapture1 View Post

    You don't lose the right of self defense if you are carrying a gun. That's kinda the point of carrying a gun.
    Oh, I know. It ain’t my position.

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  • iam416
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    I like the man in Kenosha who was trying to put out a fire and had his jaw broken. I guess he got what deserved for trying to do the job of the fire department.

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  • Kapture1
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    Originally posted by iam416 View Post
    CGVT’s argument is literally that you can’t go toward danger. You can’t go to a bad part of town. If you do go to a dangerous place or a bad part of town then you aren’t entitled to defend yourself. That’s the essence of it.
    You don't lose the right of self defense if you are carrying a gun. That's kinda the point of carrying a gun.

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  • CGVT
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    Originally posted by iam416 View Post
    CGVT’s argument is literally that you can’t go toward danger. You can’t go to a bad part of town. If you do go to a dangerous place or a bad part of town then you aren’t entitled to defend yourself. That’s the essence of it.
    Oh bullshit..

    My argument is that you don't go to war unless you are a soldier. You don't enforce the law unless you are a LEO

    That is the essence of it.

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  • iam416
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    Originally posted by Dr. Strangelove View Post

    Prosecutors tend to be the one agent of the State the Right trusts, and the one agent of the State the Left does not.
    That’s probably true, but, again, the biggest DA offices are run by Ds. Nice juxtaposition.

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  • Dr. Strangelove
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    Originally posted by Mike View Post

    I generally fall on the side of the prosecution but they seem to have gone full woke - at least in certain areas That isn't an accident. I'm personally dealing with a criminal case in which a close family member was killed by an impaired driver with a long criminal history. Given my geographic location, I'm hoping the defendant sees the inside of a prison cell. I'm holding my breath.
    Prosecutors tend to be the one agent of the State the Right trusts, and the one agent of the State the Left does not.

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  • iam416
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    CGVT’s argument is literally that you can’t go toward danger. You can’t go to a bad part of town. If you do go to a dangerous place or a bad part of town then you aren’t entitled to defend yourself. That’s the essence of it.

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  • iam416
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    If George Floyd wasn’t a criminal he’s be alive. Again, the but-for argument is so fucking stupid.
    Last edited by iam416; November 18, 2021, 09:15 PM.

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