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  • Originally posted by iam416 View Post

    They never debated illegals, though. So, it was never understood to include children of illegals. They couldn't because there was no such thing. Even the Supreme Court case dealt strictly with legal aliens.
    1. The order being rumored involved green card holder's children as well

    2. What is the definition of illegals in the law context, in the debates they are talking about Chinese and Gypsies. There were vast amount of classes of people that were excluded from being citizens at the time.

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    • Originally posted by iam416 View Post
      Off topic briefly -- hooray from shale gas! CO2 Emissions from the US power sector are down 28% from 2005 and way below projected emissions: https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=37392

      Ok, so it's more due to a decrease in demand (that I find puzzling given the growth in population), but, whatever.
      Link says drop in industrial demand. Could be greater efficiency is helping, but correlation between GDP growth and emissions growth is weakening. https://www.energyindepth.org/brooki...ghg-emissions/.

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      • Per WP story, Trump told no one in Pittsburgh he was going there today until Sarah Sanders announced it at the press briefing. The Pittsburgh mayor asked that he not come while the funerals are still going on but Trump insisted. He tried to invite a bunch of people to join him but Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, and Pat Toomey all declined to go.

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        • I think I read somewhere that the increase of efficiency has had a lot to do with it and it creates issues for updating power plants due to the fact they can't forecast increased demand as a reason to get a new power plant. Something along those lines.

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          • Don't look now but Steve King's campaign is almost broke and a poll came out yesterday showing he was only ahead by 1 point. Land O'Lakes the latest corporate donor to abandon him.

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            • Originally posted by Dr. Strangelove View Post
              Don't look now but Steve King's campaign is almost broke and a poll came out yesterday showing he was only ahead by 1 point. Land O'Lakes the latest corporate donor to abandon him.

              https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...man-steve-king
              I'm not surprised that Land O'Lakes would be pulling their support. Corporate America is pretty much fully compromised now and they want to avoid being the target of SJWs like the plague.

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              • Holy shit Lindsey Graham has grown a set of balls since his master died.

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                • Steve King didn't become more racist this week.

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                  • 's visit to PA not going so well. He won't invite Dems out of spite and is being turned away by the Repubs and the locals.


                    https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/30/polit...ing/index.html
                    “Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.” - Groucho Marx

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                    • Originally posted by Dr. Strangelove View Post

                      I read the circled passage to apply exclusively to foreigners who belong to the families of ambassadors and foreign ministers. Not ALL foreigners, else they would have included an "AND" in that sentence.
                      So they never intended the birth of child to foreign citizens to qualify as citizenship?

                      In fact they go onto debate that travelers to the US are provide protections of our laws, but not benefits of full citizenship.

                      "Is the child of the Chinese immigrant in California a citizen? Is the child of a Gypsy born in Pennsylvania a citizen? If so, what rights have they? Have they any more rights than a sojourner in the United States? If a traveler comes here from Ethiopia, from Australia, or from Great Britain, he is entitled, to a certain extent, to the protections of the laws. You can not murder him with impunity. It is murder to kill him, the same as it is to kill another man. You can not commit an assault and battery on him, I apprehend. He has a right to the protection of the laws; but he is not a citizen in the ordinary acceptation of the word."
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                      • Originally posted by Hannibal View Post
                        Holy shit Lindsey Graham has grown a set of balls since his master died.

                        https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/...82345991106560
                        Lindsay Graham 2.0 appears to be bug free. Best software update ever.

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                        • Originally posted by Dr. Strangelove View Post
                          Per WP story, Trump told no one in Pittsburgh he was going there today until Sarah Sanders announced it at the press briefing. The Pittsburgh mayor asked that he not come while the funerals are still going on but Trump insisted. He tried to invite a bunch of people to join him but Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, and Pat Toomey all declined to go.
                          sorry, but the Rabbi at the actual synagogue said Trump is welcome, despite CNN attempting to get him to badmouth the president.

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                          • Jon must have got the shit kicked out of him by a conservative kid in school. Probably a girl.
                            Shut the fuck up Donny!

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                            • Steve Stivers sharply criticizing Steve King. Stivers is chair of the NRCC.

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                              • Originally posted by THE_WIZARD_ View Post
                                Jon must have got the shit kicked out of him by a conservative kid in school. Probably a girl.

                                My 6th degree black belt Tang Soo Do instructor kicks the shit out of me twice a week. Perhaps you'd like to go a few rounds with her, eh tractor breath?
                                “Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.” - Groucho Marx

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