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  • Jeff Buchanan
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    Mike, this is an incredibly complex issue that involves employment law, because college athletes will become employees, and contract law, because college athletes will sign employment contracts.

    College leagues have to evolve to accommodate the different levels of revenue contributions such teams make each season. Spit-balling here, conceivably, leagues would arise from the current CFB structure (with other college sports tagging along), e.g., FBS, FCS, and from the FBS the power 5 and the group of 5. As in European soccer, a pyramid of leagues for each college sport, composed of these teams would emerge with a Premier league at the top of the pyramid or pyramids and the ability to move in and out of these leagues based on records as in the case of the European soccer leagues. College basketball, baseball, hockey, swimming, gymnastics teams, etc find their own leagues, such leagues evolving in parallel with CFB leagues. e.g. M's hockey team would play in the same league that M's football team plays within.

    The NCAA is dissolved, conferences disappear. A College Athletics Commissioner with associate commissioners from the FBS and FCS evolve. Other college sports are equally represented in this manner. The Commissioner's office negotiates national merchandise, licensing, and TV contracts, which make up most of the national revenue from college sports. The 134 FBS teams would then be divided into leagues with each league receiving shares of this money on a sliding scale defined by the revenue each of the 134 programs contributes to the whole. e.g., Ohio State gets a bigger share of the revenue than ECU. Each of the 134 FBS teams can generate a separate pot of money for themselves from concession sales, ticket sales, and corporate sponsors.​

    Once you set up an organizational scheme like this, each league further divided into teams, would have a set amount of revenue for each sport that makes up the pot of money from which athletes in those sports are paid. For example, FBS Power Five teams will have a larger pot of money to pay players than Group of 5 teams A player on an FBS Power Five team is going to receive a higher salary than a player on a Group of 5 team. Pots of money are further divided by each school based on the revenue that sport generates. i.e., a tennis player isn't going to make the same amount of money a football player would make. As in the NFL, a similar draft system for CFB (and conceivably for other sports) would determine where HS athletes end up signing employment contracts and which teams they will play for. Trades and transfers would mirror the NFL's system.

    I realize this concept could be completely unworkable but its a start or jumping off point. I've seen concepts for CFB mirroring the European soccer leagues before. With the right modifications that concept would seem to work for most college sports and especially for CFB and Basketball.

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  • Dr. Strangelove
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    * The smear campaign against a raped little girl and her mom which turned out to be 100% inaccurate. The mom was telling the truth about everything as time showed.

    * The months of lies about preventing an Abortion Amendment, how it was about "respect for our Constitution". Then finally admitting that yeah, actually, we just want to prevent abortion from becoming a right because we know we're going to lose.

    * Mike DeWine going on tv and sniveling and groveling and promising to relax abortion restrictions if only voters reject Issue 1 (enshrining it in the Constitution). No one with a brain believed that dude's phony last-ditch promises because no one with a brain believes the elderly lame duck has any sway with the statehouse beyond tax breaks for businesses.

    All that soured me quite a bit on the Ohio GOP establishment during 2022-2023 and made me realize they're worse than Trump on this issue.

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  • Mike
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    Originally posted by Hannibal View Post

    The "no exceptions" crowd vis-a-vis abortion would oppose even a nine year old getting an abortion. It's a fanatical and incredibly unpopular position.

    And it does exist. The woman who ran as an R for governor in 2022 said "no exceptions", so this isn't just one isolated backwater in a deep red state making this call.
    Not only that, the context of her remark was in response to a scenario where a young woman was raped by her uncle. That's how you get your ass kicked by a governor who sent Covid patients into old folks home, killing thousands, yet wouldn't let healthy people get a hair cut.

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  • Hannibal
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    Originally posted by Da Geezer View Post

    Really? Can you cite one case where a 9-year-old has been "forced" to carry a pregnancy to term? There is no state I know of that doesn't have exceptions for "rape, incest, and the life of the mother". This is rape. No one is being forced to carry a pregnancy to term. Typical Prog nonsense.
    The "no exceptions" crowd vis-a-vis abortion would oppose even a nine year old getting an abortion. It's a fanatical and incredibly unpopular position.

    And it does exist. The woman who ran as an R for governor in 2022 said "no exceptions", so this isn't just one isolated backwater in a deep red state making this call.
    Last edited by Hannibal; March 6, 2024, 02:33 PM.

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  • Dr. Strangelove
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    Originally posted by Da Geezer View Post

    Really? Can you cite one case where a 9-year-old has been "forced" to carry a pregnancy to term? There is no state I know of that doesn't have exceptions for "rape, incest, and the life of the mother". This is rape. No one is being forced to carry a pregnancy to term. Typical Prog nonsense.
    The Ohio "Heartbeat" law passed in haste immediately after the Dobbs decision banned all abortion after Week 6 with no exceptions for rape or incest after that point. A 9-year old was raped and impregnated. The girl and her mom were not aware she was pregnant until after the 6 week limit. She had to go to Indiana to get an abortion. The story got widespread coverage especially here in the state and it likely contributed to voters overwhelmingly protecting abortion rights in the State Constitution last year.

    Rather than show any sympathy to the girl or her mother, Republican politicians in this state branded her a liar and accused her of not telling the police (this turned out to be completely wrong). They doubted that a girl that young could even GET pregnant. Republicans in Indiana went after the doctor who performed the abortion and threatened to get her medical license taken away, but they failed because she had pretty much done everything according to the letter of the law.

    Man pleads guilty to raping Ohio girl who ended up traveling across state lines for abortion - ABC News

    As for your claim that every state has exceptions for rape and incest? NO. Both Alabama and Texas have total abortion bans beginning at conception with no exceptions made but for "life of the mother" which, in practice, has to be extremely well documented else the law will prosecute.

    Alabama can't prosecute people who help women leave the state for abortions, Justice Department says | AP News

    Alabama is one of several states where abortion is almost entirely illegal after the U.S. Supreme Court, in a decision known as Dobbs, handed authority on abortion law to the states. Alabama bans abortion at any stage of pregnancy with no exceptions for rape and incest. The only exemption is if it’s needed because pregnancy seriously threatens the pregnant patient’s health.​​

    15 states with new or impending abortion limits have no exceptions for rape, incest - Poynter

    A Review of Exceptions in State Abortion Bans: Implications for the Provision of Abortion Services | KFF​​

    Texas had over 26,000 rape-related pregnancies in 16 months after abortion ban, JAMA study shows - ABC13 Houston

    Idaho GOP Lawmaker Aims to Remove Rape and Incest Exceptions to Abortion Law | Truthout​​

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