Matt Stafford is the suckiest suck to ever suck

[dwt1]

Like most are. There is not a 'generational talent' for all 32 teams.


Many teams have had success without a superstar.


Tom Brady, Cam Newton, Russel Wilson, Ben Roethlisberger, Aaron Rogers and many more were also unable to even get to the Superbowl last year you know. Actually a worse QB than MS won the superbowl last season.

No team has ever built a dynasty without a super star.

BTW, Cam Newton did get to the Super Bowl last year, but you are correct about the others, but they all had their teams competitive, and were contenders to be in the Super Bowl - Stafford not so much.

I'll also point out Detroit passed on Ben Roethlisberger because they were busy trying to find talent to build around Harrington.

[dwt1]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbr


For one.

Thanks for pointing out how mediocre he truly is.

[LionsFanInJapan]

Like most are. There is not a 'generational talent' for all 32 teams.


Many teams have had success without a superstar.


Tom Brady, Cam Newton, Russel Wilson, Ben Roethlisberger, Aaron Rogers and many more were also unable to even get to the Superbowl last year you know. Actually a worse QB than MS won the superbowl last season.

Your mom is a generational talent.

/thread

Thank you! I'll be here all week.

[CGVT]

Your mom is a generational talent.

/thread

Thank you! I'll be here all week.

Haha! Nice!

[Topweasel]

No team has ever built a dynasty without a super star.

BTW, Cam Newton did get to the Super Bowl last year, but you are correct about the others, but they all had their teams competitive, and were contenders to be in the Super Bowl - Stafford not so much.

I'll also point out Detroit passed on Ben Roethlisberger because they were busy trying to find talent to build around Harrington.

So who has the Lions passed on because of Stafford? Russell Wilson doesn't count, he was drafted after Stafford had a 5k season and 40 TDs and took the Lions to the playoffs for the first time in a long time. He looked like a generational QB that year.

[wcfwtf]

Yes, lions fans were deceived ha ha, the superstar was Calvin

[wcfwtf]

Since then, defensive coordinator took away what stafford does welled he has regressed ever since

[chemiclord]

Since then, defensive coordinator took away what stafford does welled he has regressed ever since

I'd argue Joe Lombardi did a far better job of taking away what Stafford does well than any opposing defense.

[Panoptes]

Chuck and luck is not a real scheme.

[dpatnod]

I'd argue Joe Lombardi did a far better job of taking away what Stafford does well than any opposing defense.

Nope, Joe was a genius. It was all #9 you hard-working, focused, baby-booming cunt!

[dpatnod]

So who has the Lions passed on because of Stafford? Russell Wilson doesn't count, he was drafted after Stafford had a 5k season and 40 TDs and took the Lions to the playoffs for the first time in a long time. He looked like a generational QB that year.

They passed on 'someone else', and 'trying to win'. He has no answer to your question.

You are not going to draw a conversation out of this, or some kind of exchange of ideas, you know.

Just enjoy the heat from the figure being burned in effigy.

[Topweasel]

They passed on 'someone else', and 'trying to win'.

You are not going to draw a conversation out of this, or some kind of exchange of ideas, you know.

Just enjoy the heat from the figure burned in effigy.

I am not trying to change his mind. I am just trying to get to the root of why this has been such a focal point, to the point that rational thought has seemed to escape. Honestly I would love if he actually debated his point back instead of just being a broken record.

In the words of Luke, I sense some light in him. (Not the other guy though, he is fucked).

[dpatnod]

That is the entire problem. We are beyond rational thought.

Many times in history a 'problem' has to have a person responsible.

That is how Hitler did it, and how Trump is doing it.

Someone is going to be the scapegoat, dammit.

[dpatnod]

There have been a million attempts to turn this obsession into a rational discussion.

Most of them end with me being instructed on what to do with my penis. Weird.

[dwt1]

So who has the Lions passed on because of Stafford? Russell Wilson doesn't count, he was drafted after Stafford had a 5k season and 40 TDs and took the Lions to the playoffs for the first time in a long time. He looked like a generational QB that year.

No, he played a season of very weak opponents - they played just five teams with winning records and lost to every one of them. Maybe somebody in the organization should have noticed that.