Matt Stafford is the suckiest suck to ever suck

[kreton]

Best decisions a person can make in life:

Marriage
Buying a House
Buying a Car
Putting DimWiT on Ignore

;-)

Becoming a Lions fan?

[dpatnod]

That's on a different list.

[TheLondonLion]

That can be done 15 times a game for every player. No one here is arguing that Stafford is Aaron Rodgers. Sure, Stafford makes mistakes. I think the point is every mistake he makes gets punished harder when he has no support from any kind of run game and the defense lets up 52 points. If your argument is that Stafford should be perfect, and make perfect throws all the time, I don't know how to help you. He will never be that. No QB will ever be that. Aaron Rodgers is not even that, which is why GB gets bounced in the playoffs every year. They don't have the firepower to compete with the 'good teams' either, which was made starkly apparent this year.

BEYOND ALL THAT, the point you made is also wrong. The entire play was built around a 1 step drop. It was a quick slant and he threw it on a timing. If you watch the all 22 of the play, no 59 of Atlanta is about 1 foot from that ball when it goes by him, at the goalline. If Stafford waits a half-second, he bats it down AND the defender coming off the Golliday pick gets to the goaline to hit Tate before he gets in the end zone. That is also assuming that the extra half second doesn't allow Golliday's cover guy to get his hips fully turned and get inside of him, as he was already mugging Tate before the ball even got there.

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Look at it again. Stafford threw exactly between 3 different defenders. It was the only place and time to throw that ball.

edit: looking at this again made me mad again. I still can't tell if Tate's knee actually touched the ground. What a shitty end to a game.

Easy to say now but if he had tossed one up over Tate, Golladay was running away wide open.

[Topweasel]

Easy to say now but if he had tossed one up over Tate, Golladay was running away wide open.

That isn't how that play works though. This isn't about scanning the field an hit the open receiver. That play probably had two targets with no progression. Whomever Stafford was going to throw to was decided by pre-snap reads. Stafford played it right.

Its the same type of play as the seahawk vs patriots play. Russell played that perfectly but the DB made an incredible play to steal the ball. The issue with that play was always that it was called in the first place. There wasn't a reason to do that play then. There was with Tate.

[Fraquar]

That play was designed for Tate. Don't need to be a rocket scientist to see that.
TE clears out, Tate runs an underneath route into the cleared out space. Only way Stafford deviates from that is if the defender gets inside him - he didn't. A QB will throw that ball every time because it's open by design.

[dpatnod]

Fucking Stafford.

[TheLondonLion]

That play was designed for Tate. Don't need to be a rocket scientist to see that.
TE clears out, Tate runs an underneath route into the cleared out space. Only way Stafford deviates from that is if the defender gets inside him - he didn't. A QB will throw that ball every time because it's open by design.

Yeah I know, it?s a quick slant. Just had a brief vision of him looping that out to Golladay who had no one close to him.

[dwt1]

That isn't how that play works though. This isn't about scanning the field an hit the open receiver. That play probably had two targets with no progression. Whomever Stafford was going to throw to was decided by pre-snap reads. Stafford played it right.

Its the same type of play as the seahawk vs patriots play. Russell played that perfectly but the DB made an incredible play to steal the ball. The issue with that play was always that it was called in the first place. There wasn't a reason to do that play then. There was with Tate.

Without a doubt, that was the play - but timing is everything in that situation. Be patient and get Tate the ball where he can't be tackled outside the end zone, they win the game. It's been said many times......football is a game of inches.

[Futureshock]

That isn't how that play works though. This isn't about scanning the field an hit the open receiver. That play probably had two targets with no progression. Whomever Stafford was going to throw to was decided by pre-snap reads. Stafford played it right.

Its the same type of play as the seahawk vs patriots play. Russell played that perfectly but the DB made an incredible play to steal the ball. The issue with that play was always that it was called in the first place. There wasn't a reason to do that play then. There was with Tate.

Matty () Patricia had them ready and practiced defending that play. There's a video on one of these threads where he talks about it.

That's your new HC

[Fraquar]

Without a doubt, that was the play - but timing is everything in that situation. Be patient and get Tate the ball where he can't be tackled outside the end zone, they win the game. It's been said many times......football is a game of inches.

He threw that ball EXACTLY when he needed to. A fraction later and the late defender in the middle isn't late anymore. Stafford just needed to put it further in front of him and a little higher. Inches......

Yes, the game is a fraction of inches, but not waiting for those inches to arrive - by then it's too late.

[Fraquar]

Matty () Patricia had them ready and practiced defending that play. There's a video on one of these threads where he talks about it.

That's your new HC

Well, was it Patricia that did that or Patricia in a meeting with Bellichek. I've seen a few games where Bellichek essentially took over the defense in the last 2-3 years when things weren't going right.

Patricia is the HC, not the DC....... He's not going to be able to have a complete handle on managing the game AND running the defense until he gets a few years under his belt. Lot more to being a HC than being a DC. We saw that with Scwartzenheimer......

[Fraquar]

Yeah I know, it?s a quick slant. Just had a brief vision of him looping that out to Golladay who had no one close to him.

Yeah, THAT is the product of the film room. What is the defenders tendencies there. To wait there you better know in advance thats what they will do.

[dwt1]

Does he think a 41 year old Brady could survive the beating a Lions o-line allows a QB to take?

You do know that Brady was sacked 38 times this year, compared to Mediocre Matty's 47. That's less than one sack per game. How much better is NE line? The difference in sacks can be accounted for by the fact that Brady has the ability to recognize the pressure and take action to avert, unlike Mediocre Matty who routinely just stands there and takes the sack. 38 sacks, and he can still win a playoff game and make it all the way to the Super Bowl - behind a line that gave up 38 sacks, wow.

[dwt1]

Ya! Trade your Franchise QB that is entering the prime of his positional career and tied up by contract for the next 5 years for a FA aging GOAT that will need a new contract and throw in a couple of top players and a 1 and a 2?

Ya! This is Millenesque!

Uhhhhhhh, I am pretty sure this is not Hershel Walker territory.

Damn straight skippy - we''ve reached the pinnacle of mediocrity and damn it, don't fuck with it.

[dwt1]

He threw that ball EXACTLY when he needed to. A fraction later and the late defender in the middle isn't late anymore. Stafford just needed to put it further in front of him and a little higher. Inches......

Yes, the game is a fraction of inches, but not waiting for those inches to arrive - by then it's too late.

No way, the late defender is still three yards off at the time of throw, plus the late defender reacted to the throw.