Matt Stafford is the suckiest suck to ever suck

[Marko69]

Panoptes, I'm neutral......, I'm not fighting it. I think Stafford is a decent QB, but he also has some fucking howlers......., but I'm not convinced, on what I have witnessed, that the entire 8 years has been down to Stafford. And you can take a year and half off that 8.....; was he expected to "step up" from day 1?

[Panoptes]

Panoptes, I'm neutral......, I'm not fighting it. I think Stafford is a decent QB, but he also has some fucking howlers......., but I'm not convinced, on what I have witnessed, that the entire 8 years has been down to Stafford. And you can take a year and half off that 8.....; was he expected to "step up" from day 1?

Many 1st overall QBs have, many have not. He's in the latter class.

Andrew Luck was a recent #1 overall. That didn't happen because the Colts team was loaded with talent. He's 45-30 overall and has 3 playoff wins, one of those on the road with 3 losses. You either have the ability to raise your team up or you don't. Still waiting to be shown the former in Detroit.

[froot loops]

He has raised this particular team, this is a two win team at best without him.

[chemiclord]

I don't think Gonz realizes how total puke garbage this Lions team as constructed would be with a "replacement level" QB.

[froot loops]

Indeed. How they have gotten to 9 wins is beyond me. Their defensive DVOA has held steady at 30th and they have no running game. Other than that, they are great.

[chemiclord]

Indeed. How they have gotten to 9 wins is beyond me. Their defensive DVOA has held steady at 30th and they have no running game. Other than that, they are great.

It shouldn't be.

A combination of a weak schedule and a defense that while giving up tons of easy yardage managed to keep enough scoring drives to 3 rather than 7 was enough to allow a Top 5 QB to pretty much single-handedly carry his shitty ass team to enough game winning drives to win 9 of them.

On that score, Gonz is right... they played a pretty weak schedule and barely scraped by bottom-feeders. Of course, in true Gonz fashion, he blames the wrong party for why they aren't better than they are.

[dwt1]

I'm mostly unaffected by Stafford's history against winning teams because the VAST majority of those losses came when TEAM Lions were the bottom of the barrel, worst organized, and worst coached. It has been Stafford that has dragged this organization from the trash heap.

Also, he is unquestionably the BEST Lion QB in my lifetime.

Kind of like being the best hockey player in all of Mexico.

[dpatnod]

Probably outta go with Orlovski tonight.

[HenryTheDeuce]

And he's taking us to the playoffs for the second time in three years!

[edindetroit]

Matthew Stafford breaks NFL record for fastest QB to 30,000 yards

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2017/01/matthew_stafford_becomes_faste.html

[Drew]

I'm mostly unaffected by Stafford's history against winning teams because the VAST majority of those losses came when TEAM Lions were the bottom of the barrel, worst organized, and worst coached. It has been Stafford that has dragged this organization from the trash heap.

Also, he is unquestionably the BEST Lion QB in my lifetime.

Kind of like being the best hockey player in all of Mexico.

Now you're looking at it the right way.

[Futureshock]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/01/02/finger-injury-began-a-big-decline-for-matthew-stafford/

Finger injury began a big decline for Matthew Stafford

Posted by Michael David Smith on January 2, 2017, 9:21 AM EST
DETROIT, MI - JANUARY 1: Quarterback Matthew Stafford #9 of the Detroit Lions runs for yardage against the Green Bay Packers during first half action at Ford Field on January 1, 2017 in Detroit, Michigan (Photo by Gregory Shamus/Getty Images)
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Three-fourths of the way through the NFL season, Lions quarterback Matthew Stafford was often named as a candidate for the NFL’s Most Valuable Player award. With the Lions backing into the playoffs on the heels of their third consecutive loss, Stafford no longer looks like an MVP.

Early in the Lions’ 13th game of the season, Stafford suffered an injury to the middle finger on his throwing hand. Since then he has been wearing a splint on the finger and experimenting with different gloves to keep the splint in place, and his passing statistics have declined considerably.

Before his finger injury, Stafford had completed 67.2 percent of his passes and thrown 21 touchdown passes and five interceptions, and the Lions were 8-4.

Since his finger injury, Stafford has completed 60.2 percent of his passes and thrown three touchdown passes and five interceptions, and the Lions are 1-3.

It should be noted that the Lions’ schedule got tougher at the end of the season, ending the year with games against the Giants, Cowboys and Packers. So some of Stafford’s decline may simply be a matter of the Lions playing against tougher opponents.

But, of course, now that the Lions are in the playoffs, there are no easy games left. They need Stafford to get better in a hurry, or else their season is going to end on Saturday night in Seattle.

[AMP]

LOL! At least he has an excuse for being mediocre again ...

[Obi Sanders]

Its the glove fiasco all over again

[AKLionsfan]

Bottom line if you think a jacked up middle finger isn't going to effect a QB's abilities, guess again. All you have to do is look at Stafford's numbers after the injury and it becomes obvious. And before you say he played bad defenses before the last 3 games, minne, philly, and Rams all have defenses in the top half of the league.