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  • Indeed, we already have to deal with AA and Alabama's dogshit schedule subjecting us to Deacon Blues is a bridge too far.

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    • Originally posted by iam416 View Post
      Tread lightly or WingsFan will have some very harsh words for you.

      Incidentally, Steely Dan makes my point. You might as well post "The Heat is On" or "Careless Whisper"....
      Have a Cuervo Gold...some fine Columbian...and make tonight a wonderful thing...
      Shut the fuck up Donny!

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      • dire straits another band used the sax--saw knoeppler couple years ago good stuff

        DSL you'll be glad to know Samsung came out and stated nothing wrong with thos phones as far as they knew.

        must have been just a 6 month thing fixed the day muellers probe started.

        big enough now where NBC today show talked about it for awhile this morning

        now an informant claiming some kind of secret society mentioned by szokak the day after trump won supposedly antitrump agents holding meetings outside the FBI

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        • Mueller's Investigation Targets Trump Over Supposed 'Obstruction.' This Could Be A Massive Constitutional Crisis In The Making.


          ... According to Comey, Trump asked Comey for his ?loyalty? during a private dinner at the White House in January. Then, in February, Trump fired Flynn; immediately thereafter, Comey says Trump asked him to let Flynn go. In May, Trump asked McCabe how he voted in the last election cycle. Throughout this period, Trump harassed Attorney General Jeff Sessions on Twitter, presumably for recusing himself from the Russia investigation.

          Presumably, Mueller is looking to pin Trump down on possible obstruction charges ? the notion that Trump was attempting to manipulate his own law enforcement agencies to cover for Flynn or himself. That?s why he wants to interview Trump: to set a perjury trap for the president, or to get Trump to admit to something that would indict him...


          Now, is there a legal case for obstruction of justice even if all of this is true? Not really. Here?s what I wrote about it in June 2017:

          There are three separate federal laws, as The New York Times points out, that could deal with this situation. None clearly does.

          1. 18 USC 1503: This ?omnibus? clause covers ?corruptly or? by any threatening letter or communication influenc[ing], or imped[ing] or endeavor[ing[ to influence, obstruct, or impede, the due administration of justice.? But the clause also requires a pending judicial proceeding ? and as far as we are all aware, there is none. Furthermore, the Supreme Court is quite exacting on the application of this law ? a prosecutor would need to prove that Trump?s conduct materially impeded the investigation, which even Comey has said didn?t happen.

          2. 18 USC 1512(c): This provision of law covers anyone who ?obstructs, influences, or impedes an official proceeding, or attempts to do so.? It is not clear that an FBI investigation is an ?official proceeding,? and proving intent is difficult in any case. And it?s not enough to show intent to violate the subsection ? you have to take a ?substantial step toward the accomplishment of that goal.?

          3. 18 USC 1519: This provision covers destroying evidence related to a federal investigation. There are no accusations that Trump destroyed evidence. Unless Trump had tapes and destroyed them, the statue simply doesn?t apply.

          So what is Mueller doing?

          He?s setting the groundwork for what could become the worst political fight of our lifetime: an impeachment move started by Democrats over supposed non-illegal ?obstruction? of an investigation that found no underlying crime other than lying to the FBI. Trump will be tempted to pardon those who lied to the FBI; Republicans will surely defend Trump. Meanwhile, the media will have a field day suggesting that Trump is a criminal and that the Republicans are covering for his manipulation of the FBI and Department of Justice.

          Nowhere in any of this will Russian collusion be a factor.

          So an investigation that began with promises that Trump had worked hand-in-glove with Vladimir Putin to subvert an American election will boil down to Mike Flynn lying to the FBI about talking with the Russians about foreign policy during the transition, George Papadopoulos lying to the FBI about meeting with a rumored Russian source and then being stymied by the upper levels of the Trump campaign, and Paul Manafort and Rick Gates for issues unrelated to the campaign ? and then Trump firing Comey and Flynn and saying stuff to Comey and McCabe and Sessions.

          That?s weak tea. But weak tea may make for the most controversy, given that actual evidence of Russian collusion would united Americans against Trump.

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          • Originally posted by froot loops View Post
            Indeed, we already have to deal with AA and Alabama's dogshit schedule subjecting us to Deacon Blues is a bridge too far.

            lol, when you add Clemson and Georgia, Bama's SOS is 7th!
            "The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is sometimes hard to verify their authenticity." -Abraham Lincoln

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            • [ame]https://twitter.com/APBusiness/status/956124112568700928[/ame]

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              • https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...-trump-n840491

                Flynn was interviewed by FBI investigators without the foreknowledge of President Trump.

                There goes the claim of Trump told Flynn to lie to the FBI.

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                • Originally posted by THE_WIZARD_ View Post
                  Have a Cuervo Gold...some fine Columbian...and make tonight a wonderful thing...
                  I don't think those two things, or a 19-year-old, make talent's night wonderful. It think it's more like some pickle juice, two aspirin and a dart board with a picture of Elizabeth Warren.

                  Of course that's no criticism -- with you it's just apple juice and a yo-yo.

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                  • I do agree that Steely Dan is no way to win an argument, but every few years, for a few obsessive weeks, they're a GREAT band.

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                    • CNN and MSNBC are surely covering this Larry Nassar thing wall-to-wall.

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                      • If the nonstop coverage forces the tone deaf dumbasses in charge at MSU to get thrown out then it is worth it. Calling them tone deaf dumbasses is being kind and giving them the benefit if the doubt, they may be complicit.

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                        • Put Nasser in the general prison population and Darwin will take care of the rest. He won't last 40 minutes much less 40 years.
                          “Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.” - Groucho Marx

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                          • I'd like to put you in the general population...
                            Shut the fuck up Donny!

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                            • I can't see how there is any way president Simon remains president of MSU. Disappointed that she couldn't be bothered to be present as a witness in court as the victims gave their statements.

                              I believe there is an investigation into the university's handling of the situation, as of course, there should be.

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