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**Rocky Bleier** · November 30, 2015, 10:57 AM

Watching the replay I saw a D-line that was gassed and LBs who couldn't get off blocks or tackle. Loss of Glasgow, Mone and Ojemudia definitely hurt. They don't play against tempo well, get out of their gaps, and don't tackle particularly well either. OSU was Indiana on steroids.

**WingsFan** · November 30, 2015, 11:15 AM

Avatar could have been worse OP

**Rocky Bleier** · November 30, 2015, 11:31 AM

Sure got them some purdy wimens down in Ohio.

**WingsFan** · November 30, 2015, 11:37 AM

lol was going to make a comment, thought I would be nice ☺

**Rocky Bleier** · November 30, 2015, 12:01 PM

Were they "being nice?" Put down the fork, girls!

**hack** · November 30, 2015, 12:36 PM

Yeah, in a relative sense that guy on the left looks viable. Right, OP?

**whodean** · November 30, 2015, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by WM Wolverine View Post

Tale of the tape (stats) shows this game wasn't near as lopsided as the scoreboard suggests. M needed to get in the end zone instead of FG's and/or do the opposite to OSU, cut down on the penalties and win the big play.

The first half felt fairly even, the second half was a travesty. A healthy percentage of that is due to depth issues which the coaching staff is recruiting hard to fix.

**iam416** · November 30, 2015, 01:03 PM

The first half was even. M managed to weasel out an extra legitimate drive. M scored on 2 of their 4 drives and Ohio State scored on 2 of their 3 real drives.

Only having 3 drives for an entire half is amazing.

But M couldn't keep up their 3rd down conversion clip all game.

**hack** · November 30, 2015, 01:04 PM

The first half to me felt like ``this could have been much worse''. A bit of an escape.

**Hannibal** · November 30, 2015, 01:05 PM

The offense for Michigan went pretty much like everyone expected. If Rudock plays the whole game, we probaby score 20 points. Most people expected something in the 20s.

**paul daugherity** · November 30, 2015, 01:05 PM

The talent issue appears to be only a partial explanation. Brian, in one of the few daily posts he
makes, has a pretty somber (and in my opinion, accurate) assessment of the defense. He states that Durkin failed to adjust.

"Since OSU uses their quarterback as a runner extensively, Michigan spent most of he day with one fewer guy in the box than Ohio State had blockers. Often they lined up with one DL between Ohio State's tackles. After a reasonable start they got gashed towards the end of the first half, just in time for adjustments.

There were no adjustments. Michigan got its face caved in. When Michigan put three DL out there they got locked on the field; when OSU faced a third and short they went tempo and ran inside zone. Michigan had no response for this OSU tactic that
dates back to the dawn of the Urban Meyer era.

The overall narrative of this season is still a highly encouraging one, but here
Michigan has a choice: wake up like OSU did after their own debacle a week ago, or keep showing up in the most important game of the year completely incapable of holding the opposition under 300 yards a game.

DJ Durkin is indeed a promising defensive coordinator but the failure to respond when Indiana was ripping Michigan late and during this entire game should have us
pumping our brakes on just how good he is. This is a punch in the mouth. We'll have to wait a year before a response, if Durkin hasn't already left town for a head job elsewhere."

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11/28/2015 – Michigan 42, Ohio State 13 – 9-3, 6-2 Big Ten [Bryan Fuller] I did not make a list of the things I was hoping to avoid thinking on Saturday, but if I had "This reminds me of Greg Robinson" would have been near the top of the list. It probably doesn't beat out "I hope I can find that limb again" or "so that's what a velociraptor looks like", but it's a close thing. But there I was, watching 225-pound James Ross line up just behind a nose tackle and thinking about Kenny Demens. Poor damn Kenny Demens. The last time Michigan installed a 3-3-5 on short notice that didn't look like the way other teams run a 3-3-5 it looked like that. Michigan gave up 41 points on just nine drives to Matt McGloin. I'm sure someone has run this at some point in the history of football and had it work, but I'm still at a loss to explain how that might happen. Whenever it's raised its head at Michigan it's been a debacle. This was a debacle. ------------------------------------- The 3-3-5 wasn't a constant and may have been a misguided attempt to save the DL's legs since they had been whittled down to the starters over the course of the year, but as potential game-changing responses to the Ohio State approach to footballin' go… well, it did change the game. Michigan did need to have something in their back pocket. I spent big chunks of the preview speculating about what might happen if and when Michigan was forced to abandon the defense it has played for much of the season. Playing man coverage with a deep safety against a team with a heavy QB run game and a superior tailback is only viable if you can win one-on-one battles up front. Michigan has won those all year, but when Ryan Glasgow got knocked out of the lineup, Indiana exposed the remaining guys with tempo and a bunch of stretch plays, but they were still individually dominant against inside zone. Ohio State runs a lot of inside zone. Michigan got ripped on it. Since OSU uses their quarterback as a runner extensively, Michigan spent most of he day with one fewer guy in the box than Ohio State had blockers. Often they lined up with one DL between Ohio State's tackles. After a reasonable start they got gashed towards the end of the first half, just in time for adjustments. There were no adjustments. Michigan got its face caved in. When Michigan put three DL out there they got locked on the field; when OSU faced a third and short they went tempo and ran inside zone. Michigan had no response for this OSU tactic that dates back to the dawn of the Urban Meyer era. The overall narrative of this season is still a highly encouraging one, but here Michigan has a choice: wake up like OSU did after their own debacle a week ago, or keep showing up in the most important game of the year completely incapable of holding the opposition under 300 yards a game. DJ Durkin is indeed a promising defensive coordinator but the failure to respond when Indiana was ripping Michigan late and during this entire game should have us pumping our brakes on just how good he is. This is a punch in the mouth. We'll have to wait a year before a response, if Durkin hasn't already left town for a head job elsewhere. --------------------------- But hey, we're disappointed about 9-3 that isn't 10-2 because of a galactically unlikely outcome at the end of the Michigan State game. Since 99% of Michigan fans predicted 8-4 or worse, that's something. Turning Jake Rudock into a killer quarterback is something. Three consecutive shutouts are something, and Michigan goes into the offseason with a lot of anger to fuel improvement. Forward, and never look back at this one. AWARDS [Fuller] Known Friends And Trusted Agents Of The Week you're the man now, dog #1 Jehu Chesson had 111 receiving yards and Michigan's touchdown on a series of catches ranging routine to excellent. Darboh struggled to get separation; Chesson was generally open. That's a great sign for his ability to shake anybody and hopefully presages a big-time senior year. #2 Jake Rudock completed his incredible in-season turnaround with an 8.2 YPA day against one of the best pass defenses in the country, and that was without a whole lot of help after the catch. Rudock placed a bunch of throws just in front of the safeties, didn't throw anything approximating an interception, and dealt with a lot of pressure heroically. Just a stunning reversal, and a tribute to Harbaugh's QB coaching ability. #3 Jake Butt caught five passes and further separated himself from the Big Ten tight end pack; he has still dropped just one vaguely reasonable pass all year. You might notice that all of these things are related to Michigan's passing battery, because that was the only good bit from the game. Honorable mention: the refs for not calling holding a half-dozen times against whoever was trying to block Bosa. Peppers, I suppose. KFaTAotW Standings. 10: Jake Rudock (#3 Northwestern, #1 Rutgers, #1 Indiana, #3 Penn State, #2 OSU) 9: Jourdan Lewis (#1 UNLV, #1 Northwestern, #1 MSU), Jabrill Peppers(#2 BYU, #2 Northwestern, #2 MSU, #1 Minnesota) 8: Chris Wormley(#2 Utah, #1 Oregon State, #3 Rutgers, #2 Penn State) 6: Jake Butt(#1 Utah, #2 Rutgers, #3 OSU) 5: Jehu Chesson(#2 Indiana, #1 OSU) 4: Maurice Hurst (#2 Maryland, #2 Minnesota), 3: De'Veon Smith(#2 Oregon State, #3 BYU), Ryan Glasgow (#1 BYU), Desmond Morgan (#1 Maryland), Amara Darboh(#1 PSU) 2: Ty Isaac(#2 UNLV), Willie Henry(#3 Utah, #3 MSU), 1: AJ Williams (#3 Oregon State), Channing Stribling(#3 UNLV), Blake O'Neill(#3 Maryland), Drake Johnson(#3 Minnesota), Delano Hill(#3 Indiana). Who's Got It Better Than Us Of The Week This week's best thing ever. Jehu Chesson scored a touchdown, so that was cool. Honorable mention: Michigan was pretty competitive for 30 minutes. WGIBTUs Past. Utah: Crazy #buttdown. Oregon State: #tacopunts. UNLV: Ty Isaac's 76 yard touchdown. BYU: De'Veon Smith's illicit teleporter run. Maryland: Jehu Chesson jet sweeps past you. Northwestern: Chesson opening KO TD. MSU: the bit where they won until they didn't. Minnesota: form a f-ing wall. Rutgers: Peppers as Denard. Indiana: Delano Hill seals it with a PBU. PSU: Jourdan Lewis breaks their back on a kickoff. MARCUS HALL EPIC DOUBLE BIRD OF THE WEEK. This week's worst thing ever. The second half. Honorable mention: The first half. PREVIOUS EDBs Utah: circle route pick six. Oregon State: Rudock fumbles after blitz bust. UNLV: Rudock matches 2014 INT total in game 3. BYU: BYU manages to get to triple digit yards in the last minutes of the game. Maryland: Slog extended by deflected interception at Houma. Northwestern: KLINSMANN OUT MSU: Obvious. Minnesota: The bit where the lost it until they didn't. Rutgers: KO return given up. Indiana: run run run run run run run run run run run run. PSU: OSU's WHAT ARE THOOOOOOSE gameplan against MSU. OSU: the second half [After THE JUMP: Rudock exponential improvement path, box numbers, sad things.]

**Hannibal** · November 30, 2015, 01:07 PM

I'm glad he didn't put on his apologist hat for this one. I was afraid that he would.

**Rocky Bleier** · November 30, 2015, 01:15 PM

Brian nailed it. Especially when he said this is what OSU has been doing since the beginning of the Urban era. I suppose Harbaugh should have approached Mattison at some point during the week and made sure the defensive plan didn't look the same as it had for the past 3 years. They did exactly what Marcus Ray said they would do earlier in the week.

**iam416** · November 30, 2015, 01:21 PM

Yeah, that's why I don't quite get the "IU gave OSU a blueprint" line. OSU would have done exactly what they did if M had never played IU. It was basic, unvarnished UFM.

**paul daugherity** · November 30, 2015, 01:26 PM

Yep. What OSU did offensively was no surprise. Don't get me wrong, I think OSU is/was clearly better, and a defensive adjustment/change wouldn't have changed the outcome. It just would have lessened the amount of loss/points, and wouldn't have made UM look so inept.

It just raises 2 concerns/issues for Harbaugh going forward:

1. the need for more/better talent in recruiting; and
2. the need to determine if he has the right DC

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