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MSU competes with statue QBs and pedestrian NFL receivers. Keshawn Martin and BJ Cunningham were good college receivers but they haven't done much at the pro level. Tony Lippett will get drafted but he doesn't scream NFL.
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No -- I think that it exists on the premise that it is easier for a shitty receiver to get open than it is for a solid lineman or a tight end to make a block. The world's worst receiver takes a pass rusher out of the box simply by existing. We saw this at Michigan the past two years. When it became obvious that our tight ends couldn't block, the only way that our offense ever worked was when we didn't have any tight ends on the field. It's not just the passing game that is easier with four WRs, but the running game. This is why spread offenses constantly rank at the top in ypc, as opposed to power running offenses that are ironically less effective running the ball than finesse offenses. It's just really damn hard to stop the run with only six guys in the box. Calling more holding would reduce yards and points, no doubt. I doubt it would change the optimal configuration for most offenses, howver, now that mediocre quarterbacks can complete 60% of their passes. We would never go back to 1970s levels of productivity.Originally posted by Wild Hoss View Post
Another bit of really bad conventional wisdom that has died is the fear of using a running quarterback. Running quarterbacks aren't new since the creation of football. What is new over the past 10-15 years is that coaches no longer stupidly try to shoehorn running quarterbacks into pro style roles by instructing them to "STAY IN THE POCKET". There were probably countless Marcus Mariotas and Braxton Millers in the 1980s and 1990s that put up mediocre numbers because their legs were completely neutered, either through the "STAY IN THE POCKET" principle or by moving them to another position. I shudder to think what Donovan McNabb would do with four wide recievers on the field running the option 15-20 times a game.
These are a couple of other bad bits of conventional wisdom that have been diminished, like stupidly risk averse game management. The coaching ranks are now populated by guys who grew up thinking that it is retarded to punt the ball on 4th and 1 from the 45 yard line, and they are proving on the field what they probably figured out before they were in high school. People like myself who didn't grow up watching 6-2 games in the 1950s, and therefore weren't prejudiced by those experiences. Their ideas got adopted by shitty programs with nothing to lose, and when those programs succeeded people finally started to take notice.Last edited by Hannibal; January 8, 2015, 04:00 PM.Comment
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I agree that this is the NCAA?s thinking, and maybe it applies in basketball, baseball, hockey, whatever...but I believe its flawed in regards to college football. The type of guys on this board, in their 30s, 40s and 50s...that is college football?s bread and butter demo, and its pretty difficult to find guys who like where the sport is headed.Originally posted by Mackenzie View Post
IMO, that is something the NCAA should take heed of. If those guys start turning off the TV, then the NCAA?s cash cow is done.Comment
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One of the things I was thankful for in the Lloyd Carr era was when he would shelve the 4 wide receiver set. MSU couldn't field enough defensive backs and Michigan had a lot of talent at wide receiver. They would kill the Spartans when they went to that, luckily they were ready for a manball fight.Comment
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Have you seen the ratings for college football? Through the roof.Originally posted by Wild Hoss View PostComment
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good point. But they were drafted. Anyone else in the BIG? I'd say no to PSU right now.. not good enough. Minn is close, but that might be due to having an incredible TE.Originally posted by froot loops View PostGrammar... The difference between feeling your nuts and feeling you're nuts.Comment
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getting drafted is a low barComment
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hanny...
you outnumber the box by making the QB a running option, not by spreading out teams. I do agree with you that WR's run free.. it used to be crossing the middle meant you would be decleated. Lot of drop passes or guys running scared as a result. Today, none of that. the rules make it easy to get open.Grammar... The difference between feeling your nuts and feeling you're nuts.Comment
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not for UNL's WR's...Originally posted by froot loops View PostGrammar... The difference between feeling your nuts and feeling you're nuts.Comment
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You've had two receivers drafted in the same time frame.Originally posted by entropy View PostComment
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As long as a team plays a one high or cover two, with a running QB you can out number the defense, regardless of how many WR's.. and if they don't, you have even numbers at worse.
A drop back QB gives the D numbers advantages and you need someone to demand a double team, zone coverage or over the top protection to flip that.. Playaction passing was also a way to flip the numbers.
this all assumes of course two equal teams with equal talent. If you can push the DL back 5 yrd per snap, it may not matter.. or if a team can't cove a WR for more than 2 seconds, it doesn't matter..Grammar... The difference between feeling your nuts and feeling you're nuts.Comment
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Shut the fuck up Donny!Comment
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and Niles is playing TE..Originally posted by froot loops View PostGrammar... The difference between feeling your nuts and feeling you're nuts.Comment
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