Coronavirus Safety Protocol - please read and discuss

[TheLondonLion]

There is as much evidence that it occurred naturally as there is that it was produced. Nobody knows for sure.

Yes, strange that, isn’t it?

Occam’s razor says it was a lab escape. Of course there’s no way to know for sure, because the country where the outbreak emerged slow walked an inquiry till over a year later, dictated what theories were put forward in what order and have refused the WHO’s request for a second inquiry focusing on the laboratory.

My concern is that with no accountability, oversight or regulation and more high level biosecurity labs emerging, as well as projects like the “virome project” to go and collect half a million wild viruses - this could happen again and even be worse.

Just a few days ago in Europe “deltacron” emerged and the suggestion is that it was due to lab experimentation - this stuff happens. SARS escaped from Chinese labs on multiple occasions.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/10/deltacron-variant-prompts-doubts-among-experts-as-possible-lab-error.html

We can’t say for sure that it didn’t come from nature but no intermediary hosts have been found (unlike SARS) and there doesn’t appear to be much appetite to look.

[CGVT]

Something occurred naturally that killed a shitload of people and there was nowhere near the technology to fight it that we have today. There is as much evidence that COVID-19 occurred naturally as there is that it was produced. Nobody knows for sure.

BTW, 1/3 of the world's population was infected by Spanish Flu. About 10% of the population has caught covid, even in a much smaller world

[TheLondonLion]

The point I’m making is that this likely wouldn’t have emerged in 1918 because they weren’t turbo charging wild bat viruses in dubious labs then.

COVID is much more infectious than say the Spanish flu. Science has ridden to the rescue with vaccines but very likely also caused the pandemic in the first place.

Technology can be a blessing and a curse.

[CGVT]

Popped up was just a throw away term. In the context of my post who gives a shit where it came from?

[TheLondonLion]

Yes, if this shit had popped up when we had 1918 technology I imagine the world wide death toll would have been staggering.

It in my opinion almost certainly leaked out of the Wuhan Institute of Virology where it had been cultured in human lung cells.

A genuinely naturally occurring virus is unlikely to fall out of the sky already perfectly optimized to attack humans. The R rate is staggering.

Science may very well have caused this as well as ridden to the rescue. I’ve seen no evidence whatsoever that this came from nature and a hell of a lot of seriously sketchy behaviour from the Chinese government.

I mean what are the odds of a pandemic outbreak on the doorstep of a city that hosts the biggest bat coronavirus lab on earth, which was running experiments to make the viruses more infectious to human cells?

Stevie Wonder could see what happened here.

[froot loops]

Prior to this, there was skepticism on any ability to produce something to combat a coronavirus, the stuff they came up with to fight the viruses that attack animals weren't very effective and it caused that pessimism. They were hoping for 70 percent effectiveness. Imagine Dr. Joe Rogan rantings if we're only 65 percent effective.

[CGVT]

These are the next generation, they saved a lot of lives. The flu has been coming around every year for as long as we have been around. That's why they still make a yearly shot that is much less effective but still saves lives in the aggregate. Taking a shot is sustainable.

Science is hard, people toil away in obscurity studying this shit and I'm glad they did

Yes, if this shit had popped up when we had 1918 technology I imagine the world wide death toll would have been staggering.

[froot loops]

These are the next generation, they saved a lot of lives. The flu has been coming around every year for as long as we have been around. That's why they still make a yearly shot that is much less effective but still saves lives in the aggregate. Taking a shot is sustainable.

Science is hard, people toil away in obscurity studying this shit and I'm glad they did

[TheLondonLion]

Oh yeah - 100%. Even some friends who got it triple jabbed but got boosted just after me caught it worse.

But this isn’t sustainable long or even medium term. Guess we will have to hope there are next generation vaccines.

[froot loops]

I doubt they will continue to need booster shots. Maybe eventually they will need to do an annual shot like the flu shot. This is a newer technology in the first pandemic of the modern age. If you were fully vaccinated and then caught the virus you might be super resistant now according to the article I posted twice in here.

[Futureshock]

If that’s the case (I know it is) - why is there a need for a booster every few months (as it stands currently)?

By most estimations the T and B cell response to COVID should last decades - it’s only neutralizing antibodies (which stop you getting infected at all) that last for a short time. It begs the question of how long this is sustainable as they certainly won’t be able to vaccinate the world every 3-6 months, swathes of the world aren’t even single jabbed.

I caught it after three jabs and can say it’s one of the mildest illnesses I’ve ever had - I’m hoping that should leave a robust immune response.

I think you answered your own question. It may not have been so mild if you had not taken prior precautions. Good for you man.

I think it probably is because of new information and the virus mutation(s).

[TheLondonLion]

Will you die fast, die slow, recover eventually, recover fast or shake it off in a couple of days is the question.

The Vax was developed to try to put most people in the latter. IT DOES NOT PREVENT getting the virus. IDK who lied to you about that or you may have assumed it, but all vaccinations aren't made to prevent.

This COVID virus is very virulent and changes to adapt to it's own survival, like an ameba, so we should be doing what ever we can to continue to survive until they can get a better handle on this.

Stay safe my friends

If that’s the case (I know it is) - why is there a need for a booster every few months (as it stands currently)?

By most estimations the T and B cell response to COVID should last decades - it’s only neutralizing antibodies (which stop you getting infected at all) that last for a short time. It begs the question of how long this is sustainable as they certainly won’t be able to vaccinate the world every 3-6 months, swathes of the world aren’t even single jabbed.

I caught it after three jabs and can say it’s one of the mildest illnesses I’ve ever had - I’m hoping that should leave a robust immune response.

[CGVT]

I *think* (hope) that this shit is going to burn itself out and in the future there will be a yearly COVID shot available, maybe even combined with the flu shot.

Most people will get it. The tin-foil hat crowd will not. Darwin will smile from beyond.

[Futureshock]

Interesting...

[edindetroit]

6 months before the Flu of 1919 burned out people thought it was never going to end. Watch the PBS documentary on it, it's really interesting.

Third wave of 1919


In January 1919, a third wave of the flu hit Australia, where it killed around 12,000 people following the lifting of a maritime quarantine, and then spread quickly through Europe and the United States, where it lingered through the spring and until June 1919. It primarily affected Spain, Serbia, Mexico and Great Britain, resulting in hundreds of thousands of deaths. It was less severe than the second wave but still much more deadly than the initial first wave. In the United States, isolated outbreaks occurred in some cities including Los Angeles, New York City, Memphis, Nashville, San Francisco and St. Louis. Overall, American mortality rates were in the tens of thousands during the first six months of 1919. From Wikipedia

That's the point of the doctor in the article that this Omicron wave is not as deadly and that is why he believes it is burning out.