Miscellaneous And Off Topic Subjects

[iam416]

What about Nevada?
Does anyone have information if the remaining ballot would lean Rs (like Ohio, Florida, and NC late in the process) or lean Ds (like Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania late in the process)?

It's hard to tell because late vote drastically changed in those states mentioned.

I believe the outstanding vote in Nevada is mail vote. So, it's pretty much over. Wisconsin is the state where it's going to be stupid close, but Biden will have enough to hang on.

[Cody_Russell]

Ah... then Nevada goes Biden. Likely won't matter what happens in Pennsylvania.

Trump did say he is going to take the election to the Supreme Court ... whatever that would do.

Either way, Rs appear likely to control the Senate, meaning there will have to be some bipartisan work to get stuff done in Washington for the next 2 years.

[iam416]

The predominant election narrative of the national media is laughable in it's dismissiveness that the American electorate is more closely aligned with Trump's version of it than what the left wrongly would like it to be. There will be some good opinion pieces and editorials on this circumstance in the coming weeks.

Ignoring the rest of your extremely downer post, I actually don't think there's going to be much introspection. This election will simply confirm that AMERIKKA IS RACIST!!!!! It will confirm systemic racism. It will confirm the awfulness of "whiteness." That is 100% what's coming.

It will also confirm that horribleness of the Senate and Electoral College which will, of course, be described as Slave Power institutions.

I'm not sure what other critiques will look like, but I'm goddamn fucking certain of the above.

[Dr. Strangelove]

I believe the outstanding vote in Nevada is mail vote. So, it's pretty much over. Wisconsin is the state where it's going to be stupid close, but Biden will have enough to hang on.

Nevada counts all ballots receive dup to 7 days after election day so long as they're postmarked Nov. 3. What's left in Nevada is specifically THAT mail vote. There's no guarantee those outstanding ballots will ever arrive. Their Sec of State has already said they won't even provide another update until tomorrow. I guess there's some provisionals too but unlikely enough to matter much.

[iam416]

I feel pretty confident in saying that PDJT wins this going away if Covid didn't give him an opportunity to catastrophically fail with his rhetoric and as a leader. Perhaps he was thrown a huge lifeline by this summer's utter nonsense. But, still. Covid exposed what it looks like to have him as the leader in a national emergency situation when messaging matters.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Well as it stands, both Wisconsin & Michigan look pretty good. No one mentions it but NE-2 was called for Biden.

I'm not entirely confident about Nevada. Clark County breaks Biden's way and mail-in vote to this point has as well, but I'm not sure about last-minute mail-in votes.

Hoping Fox's Arizona call holds up. Trumpworld furious over that "too early" projection.

[iam416]

If Graham legitimately wins by double digits I'll be shocked. That'll mean the polls were wildly off and polling is effectively dead. I have no idea if the counted vote is today's vote or includes an early vote. It's frustrating

Repost. Heh.

[Hannibal]

. If you think NYC policies are going to play well in California, you're fucking insane.

I took a time machine back to 1980 and fixed it for you. It took but a generation for California to go from a Libertarian paradise that voted for Reagan twice to a Socialist banana Republic where the homeless shit in the streets and the governor has decided to literally ban the internal combustion engine.

Arizona is a dozen points bluer than Ohio this year. Trump won Ohio more definitively than Texas. Doesn't Ohio have suburbs too? Missourah? Indiana? Believe the "suburban women" narrative all you want. It doesn't explain why states that border Mexico have drastically shifted blue as the rust belt has trended slightly red.

Bush II won New Mexico in 2004 and this year the networks called it with 0% of the vote in. By 2028 they will be doing the same for Arizona.

Meanwhile, enjoy the Green New Deal, amnesty for 40 million, skyrocketing murder rates, declining 401K balances, forced government diversity programs, The Supreme Court continuing to trash the Constitution, sensitivity training for police, and having anti-white nonsense rammed down the throats of your kids in school. Maybe your high-on-decorum Republican unicorn will show up to fix it in 2024. More likely, you'll get another George W.

Edit -- a lot of AZ changing is also the result of people fleeing California but taking their shitty politics with them. Ditto for Nevada. But ultimately, it's the same problem.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Repost. Heh.

Well like I say, shocked. Polling is clearly broken and useless right now.

[iam416]

“To all the pollsters out there: You have no idea what you're doing,” Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said after defeating his Democratic challenger, Jaime Harrison, who shattered fundraising records. “And to all the liberals in California and New York, you wasted a lot of money.”

Perfect.

[Cody_Russell]

Graham destroyed Harrison. Polls way off there..

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and WTF? Didn't realize someone (Fox News) called Arizona. Biden should hold on, but I've read that Trump should win the remaining vote in Arizona.
Who knows... look what happened to Michigan and Wisconsin with the "remaining vote."

Cindy McCain Biden endorsement paying off there. John Kasich endorsement, not so much.

[Dr. Strangelove]

I took a time machine back to 1980 and fixed it for you. It took but a generation for California to go from a Libertarian paradise that voted for Reagan twice to a Socialist banana Republic where the homeless shit in the streets.

Arizona is a dozen points bluer than Ohio this year. Trump won Ohio more definitively than Texas. Doesn't Ohio have suburbs too? Missourah? Indiana? Believe the "suburban women" narrative all you want. It doesn't explain why states that border Mexico have drastically shifted blue as the rust belt has trended slightly red.

Bush II won New Mexico in 2004 and this year the networks called it with 0% of the vote in. By 2028 they will be doing the same for Arizona.

Meanwhile, enjoy the Green New Deal, amnesty for 40 million, skyrocketing murder rates, declining 401K balances, forced government diversity programs, The Supreme Court continuing to trash the Constitution, sensitivity training for police, and having anti-white nonsense rammed down the throats of your kids in school. Maybe your high-on-decorum Republican unicorn will show up to fix it in 2024. More likely, you'll get another George W.

Meanwhile Hispanics are the reason why Trump has a comfortable win in Florida and not a nailbiter. He got 200,000 more votes in Miami-Dade than last time.

[iam416]

I took a time machine back to 1980 and fixed it for you. It took but a generation for California to go from a Libertarian paradise that voted for Reagan twice to a Socialist banana Republic where the homeless shit in the streets.

Arizona is a dozen points bluer than Ohio this year. Trump won Ohio more definitively than Texas. Doesn't Ohio have suburbs too? Missourah? Indiana? Believe the "suburban women" narrative all you want. It doesn't explain why states that border Mexico have drastically shifted blue as the rust belt has trended slightly red.

Bush II won New Mexico in 2004 and this year the networks called it with 0% of the vote in. By 2028 they will be doing the same for Arizona.

Meanwhile, enjoy the Green New Deal, amnesty for 40 million, skyrocketing murder rates, declining 401K balances, forced government diversity programs, The Supreme Court continuing to trash the Constitution, sensitivity training for police, and having anti-white nonsense rammed down the throats of your kids in school. Maybe your high-on-decorum Republican unicorn will show up to fix it in 2024. More likely, you'll get another George W.

My point wrt Arizona was that, like Georgia, it has one ginormous metro area that is starting to dominate overall state population.

Ohio's dynamics, as you know, are considerably different starting with the fact the one of it's major metro areas is only marginally D at best.

Your California example is definitely fair. I would tend to think of it as both demographics and driving the middle class into the dust creating a perfect D utopia of the vastly rich pontificators and very poor.

[iam416]

I forget the county name in Texas, but it's a border county, it's very poor and it's 95% Hispanic. HRC won by 50 points in 2016. Biden won by single digits. The problem for Rs in Texas AT LEAST INCLUDES the massive suburbuan growth in DFW, Houston, Austin, San Antonio, etc.

Now maybe illegal immigrants are matching or exceeding that growth. I dunno. But, it's clear to me that (1) PDJT lost some support in the suburbs (not a ton, but enough to lose Wisconsin and M) (2) Rs need to win those voters in convincing numbers and (3) Rs are more than capable of winning in convincing numbers.

[iam416]

JFC. The Cook Report has declared the Collins is now the favorite to win Maine. Talk about Kiss of Death.