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I'm done arguing hypotheticals with this dude. The contortions he is making to support his initial silly idea is just maddening.
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Dude! Just listen to faux news! You gotta believe me!
Last edited by dpatnod; November 10, 2020, 07:51 PM.Lions Fans.
Demanding Excellence since Pathetic Patricia Piddled the Pooch!Comment
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Insults do not make an argument better.
Look at the big picture. This country is so divided right now that either Trump or Biden wins, we are looking at some serious strife, to say the least.
There is a very real possibility some electors will entertain the possibility of adding a third person to the mix to heal this country.
As far as I know, I am the only one who is openly admitting this possibility.
And this is a very good idea. This election we are stuck with two unappealing candidates. Has to be someone better out there.Comment
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You're the only one admitting this possibility because it is categorically INSANE.Originally posted by Groundskeeper View Post
There have been roughly 160 or so "faithless electors" in the roughly 250 year history of this country. Of those, something like 155 of them were votes that would have gone to the LOSING CANDIDATE (i.e. had no impact whatsoever on who crossed the threshold). And the handful that did come from the winner's pool came nowhere close to preventing the winning candidate from getting the required votes to win.
No winning party would be so STUPID to surrender a sure win out of some performative nonsense, which is probably why it maybe might have happened once, and never again.
The ONLY time in this country's history where faithless electors MIGHT (because a lot of the stories are a bit apocryphal) have influenced an election, you might ask? 1796, long before electoral votes were tied to the votes of the population.
In fact... the country's already kinda thought about the nightmare scenario you paint, and accounted for it. Which is why 33 of the fifty states make it a state crime to be a "faithless elector," and 14 can simply throw out the faithless elector and nominate a replacement who issues the vote properly.
As such, the only realistic scenario in which a contingent election can occur is in a 269-269 electoral college split, which would require a very, very specific flipping of states from one candidate to the other in this case.
Anyway, I'm tired of your pathetic excuse for knowledge and your whataboutism. Get blocked.Comment
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"Anyway, I'm tired of your pathetic excuse for knowledge and your whataboutism. Get blocked."
Good riddance.
What's insane is the situation our country is in. Of the two candidates, Trump is our best hope to deal with the divide.
Was just trying to flesh out a possible alternative. We are now living in dangerous times.
Biden wins, there will be tens of millions of people done with the United States of America. No country can survive when half of it's people no longer recognize it. Trump wins, the rioting will be worse than this past summer.
Good luck to everyone. Six years ago, after working with military intelligence, I moved to Indian Territory. Some of us knew back then things will eventually boil over.
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FFS, Trump CAUSED the divide and his misguided attempt to discredit the election will only make it worse. The fucker is a cancer that needs to be cut out.What's insane is the situation our country is in. Of the two candidates, Trump is our best hope to deal with the divide.
The only thing that is insane in you.
BTW, the late ballots in PA were set aside and have not been included in the totals and even if they are included, it they get thrown out, there are too few to make a difference
You should probably try to get your "facts" from better sources.
Move along. Nothing to see here except another Trumpster holding on to false hope based on lies.
I feel like I am watching the destruction of our democracy while my neighbors and friends cheer it onComment
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Ronna McDaniel Presents 131 Affidavits, 2,800 Incident Reports of Alleged Voter Fraud in MI: Media Still Demands 'Evidence'
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"You should probably try to get your "facts" from better sources."
You know, you're right. Went over to PJ Media and found the following article by Tyler O'Neil. He wrote an article which mentioned me some years ago. We exchanged emails and I find him to be a decent man.
10 Reasons Pennsylvania’s Election Results May Be ‘Irredeemably Compromised’
BY TYLER O'NEIL NOV 10, 2020 11:39 AM ET
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Are you MAGA guys still crying? Awwwww, maybe you need a safe space, snowflake?
Still deciding which family member should go in and tell little donny it's time to stop crying? Just tell him - it's been a week now Donny, OK, and we know your really upset but you gotta pack OK? Dry your eyes and suck it up OK, Donny?
Glad you guys have such a strong alpha male leader.
Pack your shit and get out.Lions Fans.
Demanding Excellence since Pathetic Patricia Piddled the Pooch!Comment
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Back in the day, when I was advising Ronald McDonald, - I told him.... someday you're going to have to make the McRib year-round or someday there will be another powdered clown who will pitch a hissy fit and force it. I didn't know then it would be a well out of season jac-o-lantern. But I told him, all the same. Luckily after that I got a gig on a secret moon mission, and found millions of secret ballots hidden buried in the blue cheese on the far side of the moon. I'll make a big announcement tommorow from Geraldo's Capone vault and we will have a ceremony at the Marriot (plumbing supply company) to celebrate this amazing revelation.
LOL. Here's a ;link.
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Dude you guys are arguing with a sock puppet.Comment
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Read and weep commie-crats.
Hands down, Michigan is looking like the most corrupt state in America, which it is.
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One of many examples of election cheating in Detroit...
From the Great Lakes Justice Center filing:
https://greatlakesjc.org/wp-content/...its.pdf?x44644
An attorney and former Michigan Assistant Attorney General was a certified poll challenger at the TCF Center (Exhibit A – Affidavit of Zachary Larsen).
15. As Mr. Larsen watched the process, he was concerned that ballots were being processed without confirmation that the voter was an eligible voter in the poll book because of information he had received from other poll challengers (Exhibit A).
16. Mr. Larsen reviewed the running list of scanned in ballots in the computer system, where it appeared that the voter had already been counted as having voted. An official operating the computer then appeared to assign this ballot to a different voter as he observed a completely different name that was added to the list of voters at the bottom of a running tab of processed ballots on the right side of the screen (Exhibit A).
17. Mr. Larsen was concerned that this practice of assigning names and numbers indicated that a ballot was being counted for a non-eligible voter who was not in either the poll book or the supplemental poll book. From his observation of the computer screen, the voters were not in the official poll book. Moreover, this appeared to be the case for the majority of the voters whose ballots he personally observed being scanned (Exhibit A).
18. Because of Mr. Larsen’s concern, he stepped behind the table and walked over to a spot behind where the first official was conducting her work. Understanding health concerns due to COVID-19, he attempted to stand as far away from this official as he reasonably could while also being able to visually observe the names on the supplemental poll book and on the envelopes (Exhibit A).
19. As soon as Mr. Larsen moved to a location where he could observe the process by which the first official at this table was confirming the eligibility of the voters to vote, the first official immediately stopped working and glared at him. He stood still until she began to loudly and aggressively tell him that he could not stand where he was standing. She indicated that he needed to remain in front of the computer screen where he could not see what the worker was doing (Exhibit A).
20. Both officials then began to tell Mr. Larsen that because of COVID, he needed to be six feet away from the table. He responded that he could not see and read the supplemental poll book from six feet away, and that he was attempting to keep his distance to the extent possible (Exhibit A).
21. Just minutes before at another table, a supervisor had explained that the rules allowed Mr. Larsen to visually observe what he needed to see and then step back away. Likewise, on Election Day, he had been allowed to stand at equivalent distance from poll books in Lansing and East Lansing precincts without any problem. With this understanding, he remained in a position to observe the supplemental poll book (Exhibit A).
22. Both officials indicated that Mr. Larsen could not remain in a position that would allow him to observe their activities; the officials indicated they were going to get their supervisor (Exhibit A).
23. When the supervisor arrived, she reiterated that Mr. Larsen was not allowed to stand behind the official with the supplemental poll book, and he needed to stand in front of the computer screen. Mr. Larsen told her that was not true, and that he was statutorily allowed to observe the process, including the poll book (Exhibit A).
24. The supervisor then pivoted to arguing that Mr. Larsen was not six feet away from the first official. Mr. Larsen told her that he was attempting to remain as far away as he could while still being able to read the names on the poll book (Exhibit A).
25. The supervisor then stood next to the chair immediately to the left of the first official and indicated that Mr. Larsen was “not six feet away from” the supervisor and that she intended to sit in the chair next to the official with the poll book, so he would need to leave (Exhibit A).
26. This supervisor had not been at the table at any time during the process, and she had responsibility for numerous ACVBs. Further, the supervisor’s choice of chairs was approximately three feet to the left of the first official and therefore in violation of the six-foot distance rule (Exhibit A).
27. Accordingly, Mr. Larsen understood that this was a ruse to keep him away from a place where he could observe the confirmation of names in the supplemental poll book. The supervisor began to repeatedly tell him that he “needed to leave” so he responded that he would go speak with someone else and fill out a challenge form (Exhibit A).
28. After Mr. Larsen observed and uncovered the fraud that was taking place and had the confrontation with the supervisor, he left the counting room to consult with another attorney about the matter around 1:30 p.m. to 2:00 p.m. (Exhibit A).
29. It was at this point that election officials stopped permitting any further poll challengers to enter the counting room, including Mr. Larsen (Exhibit A).
30. Election officials never allowed Mr. Larsen to re-enter the counting room to fulfill his duties as a poll challenger after he had discovered the fraud which was taking place.
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"Are you MAGA guys still crying? Awwwww, maybe you need a safe space, snowflake?"
No, the good people of Michigan are fighting back in a more civilized manner, through the courts.
When Pedo Joe and the House concedes the election next week, please keep your Bitching, Looting, and Murdering within your ghettos, thank you on behalf of your more civilized Michiganders in the rural and suburban areas of the state.
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I’m a committee member of the plumbing supply company ..... (I didn’t wait to be elected into it, just walked in and took a seat, told them all to STFU)....... and we categorically can state, that we, the plumbing supply company, want absolutely FK ALL to do with this shit.Originally posted by dpatnod View Post
Now. Was there anything else? Some solder ring fittings? No? Then get the fk oot our shop!"I'm having much more fun in my 70s in the 20s than I did in my 20s in the 70s.”
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