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[Dr. Strangelove]

Fine. Call them Palestinians. The VERY OBVIOUS conclusion is that R's support for Israel dwarfs that of the D's. It is ironclad fact. There is also a faction of the Rs in Congress that wanted any foreign aid tied to securing our southern border. That's why there were "no" votes. It wasn't because they don't side with Israel in their counteroffensive against a terror organization that wishes to wipe them from the face of the earth.

Their support for Israel is "strong". It's just not a high priority like surrendering Ukraine to Putin.

[THE_WIZARD_]

Mike...you can 't reason with an idiot like DSL...

[Mike]

Fine. Call them Palestinians. The VERY OBVIOUS conclusion is that R's support for Israel dwarfs that of the D's. It is ironclad fact. There is also a faction of the Rs in Congress that wanted any foreign aid tied to securing our southern border. That's why there were "no" votes. It wasn't because they don't side with Israel in their counteroffensive against a terror organization that wishes to wipe them from the face of the earth.

[THE_WIZARD_]

Uh...Hamas has 100% fucking percent of the responsibility...unless you want to say Iran and Hamas are 50/50.

Ridiculous.

[Dr. Strangelove]

And if you want proof most people don't believe Hamas and "The Palestinian people" are the exact same thing, here's this chart.

65% of all Americans (all parties) say Hamas bears A LOT of blame for the war. Only 20% say the same thing about "the Palestinian people".

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[Dr. Strangelove]

Nearly half of Democrats say they sympathize with both groups evenly. That's insane in itself. Then an additional 24% say they sympathize more with Hamas than Israel. So three quarters of Ds sympathize with Hamas as much or moreso than they do Israel.

Sympathizing with Palestinians and sympathizing with Hamas are two totally different things. We'll never at all agree if you insist there's no difference.

And I know you'll say they were elected so yeah, they won ~ 44% of the vote of what was probably a shady election in 2006 and have never allowed another election to be held since. They have never held the support of everyone in Gaza and I doubt their support level remains even as high as 44% today. .

2006 Palestinian legislative election - Wikipedia

[THE_WIZARD_]

<GO FUCK YOURSELF SAN DIEGO>

[Mike]

So even among Dems, only 24% are more on the side of the Palestinians. And even then that doesn't equate to "pro-Hamas".

24% is pretty close to the % of House Dems that voted to deny aid to Israel too.

In neither case does it come close to the majority position of the Democratic Party.

Nearly half of Democrats say they sympathize with both groups evenly. That's insane in itself. Then an additional 24% say they sympathize more with Hamas than Israel. So three quarters of Ds sympathize with Hamas as much or moreso than they do Israel.

[THE_WIZARD_]

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[Dr. Strangelove]

It's not hard.

https://www.deseret.com/2023/12/19/24003138/republican-and-democrat-views-on-israel-poll/

Is 69 to 2 significant show of support?

So even among Dems, only 24% are more on the side of the Palestinians. And even then that doesn't equate to "pro-Hamas".

24% is pretty close to the % of House Dems that voted to deny aid to Israel too.

In neither case does it come close to the majority position of the Democratic Party.

[THE_WIZARD_]

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[THE_WIZARD_]

FOUR MORE YEARS!!!!!!11111

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[THE_WIZARD_]

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[Dr. Strangelove]

Those 4 chair no committees and have close to no real power. But yes, Fox makes sure you know who they all are.

House Dems voted 176 - 37 for the standalone Israel bill. The Republicans voted 100 - 112 for the Ukraine portion. And even 21 Rs voted against Israel.

Over 80% of Dems voted for Israel and even a majority of the so-called Prog Caucus.

And let's also be honest: the Dems bailed out Johnson by helping him even hold these votes in the first place. Without them supporting him, the Arson Caucus was prepared to block votes on all this stuff indefinitely. And I imagine the Dems have an understanding with Johnson that they'll bail him out should Marge Green go ahead with her dumbass motion to vacate.

The Rs are hapless in putting down the rabid trash pandas in their party so it's up to the Dems to do the job for them.

[THE_WIZARD_]

The Chairman...at a political rally today...reading off the teleprompter...says "Pause" after saying "Four More Years"...and the instruction of "pause" was read...

heh...the dude IS Ron Burgundy...